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measurablefunc 3 hours ago

If you listen to the people who believe real AI is right around the corner then any software can be recreated from a detailed enough specification b/c whatever special sauce is hidden in the black box can be inferred from its outward behavior. Real AI is more brilliant than whatever algorithm you could ever think of so if the real AI can interact w/ your software then it can recreate a much better version of it w/o looking at the source code b/c it has access to whatever knowledge you had while writing the code & then some.

I don't think real AI is around the corner but plenty of people believe it is & they also think they only need a few more data centers to make the fiction into a reality.

pixl97 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Real AI will never be invented, because as AI systems become more capable we'll figure out humans weren't intelligent in the first place, therefore intelligence never existed.

measurablefunc 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Don't worry, just 10 more data centers & a few more gigawatts will get you there even if the people building the data centers & powerplants are unintelligent & mindless drones. But in any event, I have no interest in religious arguments & beliefs so your time will be better spent convincing people who are looking for another religion to fill whatever void was left by secular education since such people are much more amenable to religious indoctrination & will very likely find many of your arguments much more persuasive & convincing.

GaggiX 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>Real AI is more brilliant than whatever algorithm you could ever think of

So with "Real AI" you actually mean artificial superintelligence.

measurablefunc 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I wrote what I meant & meant what I wrote. You can take up your argument w/ the people who think they're working on AI by adding more data centers & more matrix multiplications to function graphs if you want to argue about marketing terms.

GaggiX 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I was just thinking that calling artificial superintelligence "Real AI" was funny.

measurablefunc 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Corporate marketing is very effective. I don't have as many dollars to spend on convincing people that AI is when they give me as much data as possible & the more data they give me the more "super" it gets.

HappyPanacea 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> b/c whatever special sauce is hidden in the black box can be inferred from its outward behavior.

This is not always true, for an extreme example see Indistinguishability obfuscation.