The solution to this whole situation seems pretty simple to me. LLMs were trained on a giant mix of code, and it's impossible to disentangle it, but a not insignificant portion of their capabilities comes from GPL licenced code. Therefore, any codebase that uses LLM code is now GPL. You have a proprietary product? Not anymore.

Not saying there's a legal precedent for that right now, but it's the only thing that makes any sense to me. Either that or retain the models on only MIT/similarly licenced code or code you have explicit permission to train on.

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nkmnz 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What about the code that wasn't even GPL, but "all rights reserved", i.e., without any license? That's even stronger than GPL and based on your reasoning, this would mean that any code created by an LLM is not licensed to be used for anything.

	▲	moralestapia 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yes.

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keithnz 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

if you train yourself by looking at GPL code then go implement your own things, is that code GPL?

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dec0dedab0de 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

it can be, depending on if it is different enough to convince a jury that it is not a copyright violation. See the lawsuits from Marvin Gaye's family to see how that can be unpredictable.

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AberrantJ 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Of course not, because everyone making these arguments wants people to have some magic sauce so they get to ignore all the rules placed on the "artificial" thing.

	▲	bakugo 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		If you genuinely believe that you are not above a literal text completion algorithm and do not deserve any more rights than it, that says more about you than anything else.

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estimator7292 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If you copy and paste one line from a thousand different GPL projects, is the resulting program GPL?

Let's be honest about what's happening here.

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moralestapia 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

100% agree, if we are fair and honorable.

In practice, well ... you saw what's been going on with the Epstein files, etc... we are far from being ourselves in a world that's fair and honorable.

(I'm not condoning it, I think it's massively trashy to steal code like this then pretend you're the good guy because of some super weird mental gymnastics you're doing)