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cdrnsf 3 hours ago

Ukraine should refuse to help barring a commitment to continued support and support of their preferred peace plan.

mekdoonggi 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

While I love the idea of sticking it to Trump, this is the wrong approach. The right approach (which Zelensky is doing) is for Ukraine to sell defense drones to countries that now need them (US, Isreal, Gulf States).

Ukraine gets money while scaling their manufacturing and everyone else gets drones that actually work and are continually being refined in the field.

chinathrow 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What are the self defence drones against Shaheds at this time? I thought Ukraine was shooting them down with F16s, Gepards and from helicopters.

dmix 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Drone vs drone interceptors in the big deal in Ukraine right now.

verdverm 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They have a new interceptor that looks like a big bullet with a set of props on the back end.

This article has a representative image: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/us-qatar-discuss-acquiri...

You can find videos of their use too

Luc 2 hours ago | parent [-]

There's different models from several suppliers as well: https://www.hisutton.com/Ukrainian-Interceptor-Drones.html

verdverm an hour ago | parent [-]

Thanks for the link, that was the same source I couldn't re-find.

EB-BarringtonII 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Zelensky has not yet sold anything.

He perfectly understands that whatever Ukrainian military technology is sold to US, Israel, Gulf States will be shared with russia moments later.

mothballed 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If Zelensky wants to turn it into a capitalist enterprise then he should be careful with that game, because US could easily ask to be given hard assets in return for the $100B+ in aid we give them, or just reduce aid by exactly the amount they are charging for their drone help.

verdverm 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

US direct aid is near zero at this point. The new deal is the EU paying for most of the military supplies.

Ukraine is well positioned to be a major arms supplier for the new drone warfare reality. No one has the experience they do.

EB-BarringtonII 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

US to Ukraine aid under Trump, for more than a year now, is exactly zero dollars.

mothballed 3 hours ago | parent [-]

$400M is directly allocated for 2026.

https://www.osw.waw.pl/en/publikacje/analyses/2025-12-19/us-...

coryrc 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Quoting your article:

Congress has merely secured the financial pool; the decision on whether and how the money will be spent ultimately lies with the Secretary of War (Defense).

mothballed 3 hours ago | parent [-]

This is such a cunningly disingenuous portrayal though when you're just leaving it at that, the US has provided billions in aid already and allocated hundreds of million more for this year. Yet the counter argument here is to just ignore all of that and pretend like they've gotten zero through omission of all the times they haven't, while relying on a totally uncited assertion that none of this year's allocation has been spent.

greycol 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Sure but the question is are they helping the U.S. that helped them. It's pretty clear that the Trump administration is a completely different beast than typical US administration. Look at things like its pro offensive war stance (see unofficial name change of DoD) or that it does not support Ukraine (see lack of funding/intelligence since Trump). Maybe Ukraine will think it's supporting the Americans that helped them and hurting the Americans that are pro or compromised by Russia by withholding aid and letting Trump wallow in what he's reaped.

I'll add that trump has made clear that U.S. administrations are not beholden to previous international policy decisions and so unless congress reins in the executive or trustworthy actors hold the mantle again other nations should treat the US with short term policy decisions in mind and not rely on long term reciprocation.

idontwantthis 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They should take payment up front.

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