> Did voting for Bernie Sanders in the last two primaries (especially the ones when Trump won for the first time) amount to anything?

He didn't win the primaries though. It would have amounted to something if he got enough votes.

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don_esteban 3 hours ago | parent [-]

1) He did not win primaries, in significant part also because DNC was heavily against him. The level playing field thing.

2) If he won the primaries, there is still no guarantee that that would have amounted to anything.

First, he might not have won the elections (mainstream media and the whole ruling elites were heavily against him). And even if he won, he might not have been able to do much against the permanent state.

I still think the main cause of Trump's wins is the deep disillusionment of the democratic voters by Obama's failure (inability/unwillingness) to impact a meaningful change.

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wilg 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Everything you're saying here is the exact delusional cynicism that got us here. Stop.

	▲	don_esteban 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yes, my stance is cynical. Sadly, it is also factually correct (i.e. not delusional). Which of my statements are you contesting? From my point of view, your stance (play fairly, according to the rules set by your stronger opponent) is delusional. Note that the opponent is not 'republicans', but the whole ruling elites. And no, I can't help you, I am not USian, just an outside observer. Sadly, due to its weight, whatever USA does, heavily influences everybody else as well.