The lists in the post look like they're LLM-formatted, em-dashes etc. It's fine, it seems like a fun project to vibe code. Not sure about raising money on Patreon for it, but

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latexr 11 hours ago | parent [-]

> The lists in the post look like they're LLM-formatted, em-dashes etc.

No, not “etc”. What else looks LLM-formatted about them? Because em-dashes are not enough to claim LLM.

Look, I get that you don’t care about proper typographic characters. You don’t have to, that’s fine. But many of us humans do.

https://www.gally.net/miscellaneous/hn-em-dash-user-leaderbo...

And going from “LLM-formatted lists” (without any certainty) to vibe-coded project is a huge leap.

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roywiggins 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They are very even. They are uniformly bolded. They're long and comprehensive. Most humans would have more variation in length unless they were working to a template or a style guide. A long catalogue of tools is also just way more detail than most people would put into an announcement post... but an LLM doesn't get tired and will barf all that out if you don't stop it.

A more robust and perhaps more vivid indicator are sentences like this: "This isn’t a proof of concept or a weekend project. It’s a real authoring environment."

"It's not X, it's Y" is an LLM tell. "It's a real Z" is another. Together? I'm going to conclude it's LLM generated to like a 90% certainty.

And as the sibling notes, the icons look like LLM SVG output. They're more mangled than even a rushed human would do.

Again, it's fine. If I had more time I'd love to try to vibecode a Flash clone.

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Retr0id 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This isn't just some em-dashes, it's 126 of them in a single announcement post.

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latexr 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The number is irrelevant. They are being used as separators on every list item, of course there are many. They could all be hyphens or arrows or colons and it would be exactly the same.

Look, I’m not saying this wasn’t written with an LLM. What I’m saying is that you don’t know that judging by the em-dashes alone.

	▲	Retr0id 8 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		The number is relevant when the comment with the most em-dashes on HN (prior to 2023) had only 31. It's also not the only signal here.
	▲	roywiggins 8 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		There are no colons or semicolons, anyone who really is a stickler for punctuation would not write exclusively with em-dashes.

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roywiggins 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

And not a single colon! Well, outside the smiley in the opening paragraph.

Just read the first two paragraphs and there's a full stylistic whiplash. I'd bet $100 that the first paragraph was human-written and the rest were almost fully Claude.

It's kind of creepy, like a human rolling their eyes back partway through a paragraph and suddenly speaking like Microsoft Bob.

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casey2 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Nor any semicolons. Also full of nonsense. SWF fundamentally runs action script. The idea that you are going to have a AS3 to C# transpiler and a C# scripting engine AND export SWFs is incongruous. Again, "C# code executed when the playhead enters a keyframe." Now I'd love the oppurinity to learn, but ctrl+f c# here [1] shows 0 results. Though I'm sure I'm just misunderstanding the meaning here ( ≖_≖).

[1] https://open-flash.github.io/mirrors/swf-spec-19.pdf

	▲	roywiggins 8 hours ago \| parent [-]
		only thing I can imagine is that they are building it with Unity, hence the C#. You can compile other languages to SWF bytecode, that's what Haxe is.