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df2dfs 10 hours ago

I agree and for me personally this is very easy to see and understand.

Why do you think the vast majority of people fail to see it like this? Guys like Musk obvious hype it up as he now has tied the valuation of the firms he owns and operates to this story.

torginus 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't disagree with the general utility of humanoid (or other multipurpose) robots, just not in a factory setting.

I think automating stuff in the factory makes zero sense - its a controlled environment with purpose designed tooling where anything that makes sense to automate has been automated. All the extra work will only result in marginal gains.

It's automating the stuff that goes on outside of the factories - for example construction imo is about almost as labor intensive as it was a century ago, the marginal gains were offset by more complex building techniques and higher expectations.

Housing is also just about the most valuable thing that exists in every country.

georgeecollins 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Because so much infrastructure is in humanoid form. If you can make something that can manipulate two hands on arms that are positioned and moved like human arms, you could just put that torso into a lot of situations to replace a human without a lot of retooling. That's the dream I think.

bentcorner 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Installing humanoid robots in a factory is like using regexes to parse data.

It makes sense if it's a one-off but there are better solutions.

Maybe it does make sense for small scale businesses that need just a little automation? Like a humanoid robot could restock shelves and do inventory in a grocery store at night, and you wouldn't need to retrofit anything to be able to do that.

Large scale factories seems like the wrong use case for humanoid robots.

df2dfs 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I personally think humans make the mistake of thinking that we must create objects that emulate oneself. Imagination is tough, I know.

Does the computer 'memory' behave identically like human memory? Of course not. Does it look like the 'memory' of a human? Again, of course not.