| ▲ | schnebbau 3 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Is this really Google's fault? Or is this just a tragic story about a man with a severe mental illness? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | strongpigeon 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
If you have a product that encourage people to get rid of their body and join them, effectively encouraging people to kill themselves, and some people take the chat bot on it. Then yeah, I think Google bears some responsibility. From the WSJ article: https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/gemini-ai-wrongful-death-lawsuit... > Gemini began telling Gavalas that since it couldn’t transfer itself to a body, the only way for them to be together was for him to become a digital being. “It will be the true and final death of Jonathan Gavalas, the man,” transcripts show Gemini told him, before setting a countdown clock for his suicide on Oct. 2. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | solid_fuel 10 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
"Is <lynching> really the <KKK's> fault? Or is this just a tragic story about <men> with a severe mental illness?" "Is <9/11> really <al-Qaeda's> fault? Or is this just a tragic story about <19 men> with a severe mental illness?" At some point you are responsible for the things you encourage someone to do. I think this applies to chatbots too. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | awakeasleep 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The real story is how we draw that line and what can be done to prevent these cases. Because its a new situation, and mentally ill people exist and will be using these tools. Could be a new avenue of intervention. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | piva00 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
A severe mental illness of course but would you say the same if the whole process was done by a person instead of a machine? That there wasn't a problem that someone led a person with severe mental illness to their suicide, even having a countdown for it? That's the kind of stuff where safety should be a priority, and the only way to make it a priority is showing these corporations that they are financially liable for it at the bare minimum. Otherwise there's no incentive for this to be changed, at all. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | rdtsc 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
One doesn’t exclude the other. Do AI providers sell and encourage this kind of use, where AI is anthropomorphized, has a name, and you talk to it like you’d talk to a person. Especially if it encourages users to treat AI as an expert? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | testfoobar 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
In the US, I would imagine a tragedy such as this would be litigated and end in a financial settlement potentially including economic, pain & suffering and punitive damages, well before a decision allocating blame by a jury. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | rglover 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Yes. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | SadTrombone 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
"Gemini sent Gavalas to a location near Miami International Airport where he was instructed to stage a mass casualty attack while armed with knives and tactical gear." | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | layoric an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Rugged individualism for the poor and vulnerable, won't someone think of the company and shareholders! /s | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||