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Could be wrong but I don't think Flock makes speed trap or red light cameras. These are license plate readers that conduct constant surveillance of everyone at all times, whether or not you've broken any traffic laws.

	▲	tonymet an hour ago \| parent [-]
		plate reading allows police to identify known and unknown suspects. For known suspects (e.g. police have PC, suspect fled), plate reader can help find the suspect without high speed pursuit. For unknown suspect (e.g. citizen report of street racing), plate readers can develop a suspect pool and narrow down candidate suspects for further investigation.

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boelboel 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Police just aren't doing their job in the US, who even knows what they're doing at this point. Basically no country had the post-covid driver issue as much as America. Some states basically halved fines lol, make them do their jobs.

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pesus an hour ago | parent | next [-]

The amount of times I've seen cops just sitting in their cars playing on their phones or loitering around chatting and ignoring everything around them is ridiculously high.

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dawnerd 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Seriously. People run reds in front of cops and they do nothing. I was tboned and the person that hit me had no license or anything to identify and ran a red and still was let go without anything.

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tonymet an hour ago | parent [-]

What led to this?

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boelboel 24 minutes ago | parent [-]

This is what happens to your country when you don't really care about public services (in many cases they're looked down upon, just look at teachers, federal workers but also police). There's difficulty recruiting and retaining police officers in the US (i'd imagine anywhere but especially the US) because it's not seen as a good job. I'm not a huge believer in IQ but intelligent and capable people just can't be convinced to go into this line of work unless they truly care about their community (very rare). Just way more fun to go to the big city and work in an office with an AC.

I'm sure there's a million other reasons why people don't want this job, but this reflects in how harsh you can be on (new) agents.

	▲	tonymet 13 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		that is a big part of it. Directly, people don't give the police enough respect, and indirectly, they don't encourage politicians to develop policy to support the police.

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rationalist 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Running reds, extreme speed, escaping police are all common.

How do these cameras prevent those crimes?

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tonymet an hour ago | parent [-]

plate reading help police track down suspects without pursuit. video recording in general help police collect evidence necessary to convict reckless driving.

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rationalist an hour ago | parent [-]

It sounds like you're talking about solving crimes, not preventing crimes.

	▲	tonymet an hour ago \| parent [-]
		solving crime and convicting criminals has first and n-order effects. For one, a few criminals commit most crimes, so locking people up reduces many crimes. Secondly, convictions are a deterrent.

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habinero 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> At the same time, the public demands more oversight and constraints on police , which reduces their ability to enforce the law

Don't make excuses for them. If you're legally allowed to kill people on purpose, you (should) get oversight and tight constraints. We don't because of a lot of reasons, but we should

They get paid six figure salaries for not actually doing a whole lot, they can manage.

	▲	tonymet an hour ago \| parent [-]
		To what extent? Do you want infinite oversight and little-to-no crimes convicted? What are your expectations on law and order vs criminality? do you believe people naturally police themselves?