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cyberax 4 hours ago

This "social credit" thing is dead in China.

petcat 3 hours ago | parent [-]

As an American, I have no fear of calling the US President a pedo or saying Fuck the Police on my Twitter. Not the case in China. It's horrifying.

https://reclaimthenet.org/china-man-chair-interrogation-soci...

Barrin92 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> I have no fear of calling the US President a pedo or saying Fuck the Police on my Twitter.

Does that matter? In China people don't judge the state of their civilization by how easily you can insult the police but whether you need to be afraid to meet them on the street. "I can insult my pedophile president" (who doesn't care if you do) isn't exactly a flex.

It does tell us something though that the evaluation of American life now consists of parasocial interactions with the president on social media. I'm starting to belief Bruno Maçães, ex Portuguese secretary of state, was prescient with his diagnosis that American material society has rotted to the point where life is now entirely defined by virtual interactions. That's the difference between China and the US today.

The president's a pedophile, a criminal, undeterred by democracy, economy or social disorder but you can freely yell into the void. Have you considered that in the US one can freely say all these things precisely because that's irrelevant?

petcat 37 minutes ago | parent [-]

> The president's a pedophile, a criminal, undeterred by democracy, economy or social disorder but you can freely yell into the void. Have you considered that in the US one can freely say all these things precisely because that's irrelevant?

Americans will vote for their Congress representatives in November. They will have a chance to decide how they want their government to be run. The US President was already shot-down once by the Supreme Court (tariffs). The system is working. Let the voters decide, and then let it work.

cyberax 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Oh, China absolutely does not tolerate _public_ dissent very much including highly visible social media posts. Everybody there knows that.

But this:

> According to the social credit system, Chinese citizens are punishable if they indulge in buying too many video games, buying too much junk food, having a friend online who has a low credit score, visiting unauthorized websites, posting “fake news” online, and more.

...is just pure bullshit. There were _ideas_ about including these kinds of stuff into the score, but they have never been implemented. At this point, the social credit score is only used to find people who dodge court decisions.

fc417fc802 3 hours ago | parent [-]

"At this point" being the key phrase.

kelipso an hour ago | parent [-]

A key phrase that can be used to speculate about whatever bs one can think of.

fc417fc802 an hour ago | parent [-]

A low effort and bad faith rebuttal on your part.

Please ignore the gun pointed at your head / social credit score / masked goons roving about Minnesota / flock cameras / etc as it hasn't been used against you at this point.