My point still stands.

I think a lot of the awfulness that has come out of the implementations of socialism has come from greed.

North Korea’s awfulness came because Kim Il Sung decided to appoint himself as king right after their revolution. Cuba’s awfulness came because Castro decided to appoint himself as king right after their revolution.

I could keep going, but my point is, and call their surrounding system whatever you want, these things are still a consequence of immense greed.

ETA:

You keep trying to turn what I said into some anti-socialist thing, which seems to imply that you think I am a socialist. I am not.

I think that a lot of the biggest issues with socialism come from greed. Greed is not good. Greed is bad. It’s bad when it’s in a capitalist context, it’s bad when it’s in a socialist context. It’s bad in every context. You can keep going on about how horrible you think socialism is if you want but that’s orthogonal to what I was saying.