| ▲ | rk06 9 hours ago |
| all apple needs, to kill surface laptops entirely, is to enable windows to run on m series laptops without issues. I don't know why the downvotes, maybe someone can chime in if there is more to surface laptop? because i am using one laptop, and much prefer to use windows on M4 macbook pro instead. |
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| ▲ | rbanffy 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I’m not sure that many people want Windows badly enough they would get an Apple device and remove the original OS so they could run Windows. From my personal experience, Widows users in general don’t mind Windows, but, definitely, nobody I have ever met finds it more desirable than macOS. |
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| ▲ | fidotron 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The games industry remains a hotbed of people that vehemently hate Apple, even those that have never touched a Mac. Part of it historically was a sort of Visual Studio induced Stockholm Syndrome, where for a long time if you were doing C++ work that was the only sane way to go. There are some companies that even filter potential employees on this basis. | | |
| ▲ | iknowstuff 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Which companies? | |
| ▲ | dartharva 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Apple leaves gamers alone, it does not even attempt to be a nontrivial gaming platform and makes no promises. Why would gamers and gamedevs hate it? It just doesn't exist in their market. | | |
| ▲ | xyzsparetimexyz 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Its a computer. People are gonna try and play computer games on it. | |
| ▲ | fidotron 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | From the noises that occur whenever you force a Windows loving gamedev to use a Mac the first major "problem" is mouse acceleration. |
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| ▲ | carlosjobim 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Don't have to remove anything. This used to be possible on Macs with bootcamp as they called it. | | |
| ▲ | alwillis 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | Bootcamp was a hedge when Apple was a lot less dominant than it is now. When Apple transitioned from PowerPC to Intel, it wasn’t clear that was going to work. Being able to boot into Windows was sort of an insurance policy that’s no longer necessary. |
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| ▲ | wao0uuno 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Oh man I'd pay premium for a sleek device like this that CAN'T run Windows or Mac OS. Just a mere thought of being able to run pure Linux on that sweet sweet apple silicon with full driver support makes my juices flowing. |
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| ▲ | akdev1l 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| wine already runs on Mac so really they would just need something like dxvk to have a package similar to proton To be honest if Apple wanted to they could work with valve to make gaming on Mac a reality To some degree it should already be possible with wine + dxvk + moltenvk |
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| ▲ | alwillis 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I believe you’re being downvoted because your logic is from 20+ years ago when Windows compatibility was important. Also the era when companies were trying to “kill” each other’s devices is no longer a thing. They all get the reality it’s a multi device world and they need to work within it. |
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| ▲ | TingPing 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I assume you’re downvoted because Microsoft has to want that. |
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| ▲ | raverbashing 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Who cares about Windows anymore? Kids are happy with iOS/Android devices Google docs solves 90% of Office use cases |
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| ▲ | NetMageSCW 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Google Docs might handle 50% of people who use Office, but I doubt if it handles 25% of Office use cases. Few use every feature of Office but someone uses every feature of Office and all those power user cases that are different can’t be handled by Google Docs. Or even Web Office. | |
| ▲ | rk06 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | many people do. i work for Microsoft and don't have option to use mac os | | |
| ▲ | raverbashing 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | Well, last I checked most people don't work for MS so I reckon their experience might be a bit different |
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