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wccrawford 3 hours ago

Absolutely. And if you asked them if they're rather have it sooner, or keep it simpler, they'd pick "sooner" every time.

withinboredom 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I once used the analogy of the PM coming to the shop with a car that had a barely running engine and broken windows, and he's only letting me fix the windows.

His response: "I can sell a good looking car and then charge them for a better running engine"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4Upf_B9RLQ hits a little too close to home.