| ▲ | InsomniacL 6 hours ago | |
> Would it be a fair argument to say the police have a better opportunity to prevent crimes if they can enter your house without a warrant? Police can access your home with a warrant. Police cannot access your E2EE DMs with a warrant. | ||
| ▲ | danlitt an hour ago | parent | next [-] | |
Not answering my question! > Police cannot access your E2EE DMs with a warrant. They can and do, regularly. What they can't do is prevent you from deleting your DMs if you know you're under investigation and likely to be caught. But refusing to give up encryption keys and supiciously empty chat histories with a valid warrant is very good evidence of a crime in itself. They also can't prevent you from flushing drugs down the toilet, but somehow people are still convicted for drug-related crimes all the time. So - yes, obviously, the police could prosecute more crimes if we gave up this protection. That's how limitations on police power work. | ||
| ▲ | allreduce 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |
And they shouldn't be able to. Police accessing DMs is more like "listening to every conversation you ever had in your house (and outside)" than "entering your house". | ||
| ▲ | cucumber3732842 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |
>Police cannot access your E2EE DMs with a warrant. Well the kind of can if they nab your cell phone or other device that has a valid access token. I think it's kind of analogous to the police getting at one's safe. You might have removed the contents before they got there but that's your prerogative. I think this results in acceptable tradeoffs. | ||