> When my current phone dies, I'm basically returning to a dumb phone with a removable battery.

Why not a smartphone with the jack, microsd, and a hardware kill switch for camera?

I haven't found a >=2025 phone (I started looking in the summer) with a headphone jack that I can actually use more conveniently than a tablet. Everything now requires two hands, not counting warrantyless china phones like the jelly star, or ones with a chipset that would have been considered fast in 2018

As for the camera, a webcam sticker seems much more convenient than needing to mess with the hardware internals

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fsflover 7 hours ago | parent [-]

> haven't found a >=2025 phone

Why such a restriction?

> or ones with a chipset that would have been considered fast in 2018

https://puri.sm/posts/the-danger-of-focusing-on-specs/

> webcam sticker seems much more convenient

Except there is also a microphone.

> than needing to mess with the hardware internals

What do you mean? My phone has a convenient, external hardware kill switch. No messing with internals is necessary.

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Aachen 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> Why such a restriction?

Sorry, that wasn't clear: I meant any phone that I can purchase as of 2025. I was looking for several months and made a decision about 2 months ago. A second-hand Pixel was a big compromise but I don't see another option

> https://puri.sm/posts/the-danger-of-focusing-on-specs/

Do you also have thoughts to add or am I supposed to read and respond to 2000 words of material here?

The reason I'm looking at specs is not because I have no idea what I need. Not sure if there's another possible reading or if the link insinuates that. The software I use (e.g.: OsmAnd) is noticeably faster on more modern systems and was downright sluggish on my previous phone. I could buy my current chipset again, it's doable for now, but neither fluent nor future-proof. The chip's inefficiency also means it's completely empty after 2.5 hours of use (while I'm out mapping, taking notes, recording positions and sometimes pictures, listening to music... I ask a lot of the battery), whereas newer chips can do the same work with less energy

I also need a modern chipset for accurate GNSS. The phone I get from work has dual-frequency GNSS and makes razor sharp traces which are much more usable for my mapping hobby, especially in urban or forested areas or behind coated windows like trains or cars (car navigation isn't that niche, my current phone does a pretty poor job at that)

But yeah, let's not focus on specs. Who cares about any of this right? That's what I'd say if I sold a really basic phone

> Except there is also a microphone.

Respond to the person above. Hardware toggles wasn't my argument but theirs. Great that your librem has this but the thread is about GrapheneOS

Edit: lol that was yourself. You posted about a camera toggle, not me or anyone else

	▲	fsflover an hour ago \| parent [-]
		> Do you also have thoughts to add or am I supposed to read and respond to 2000 words of material here? The idea is that relatively low specs do not necessarily mean low performance. It depends on the software a lot. For example, SXMo provides a smooth experience with maps and Youtube even on a Pinephone. The battery life may be a problem though. > the thread is about GrapheneOS The subthread you started is about a phone "with a headphone jack that I can actually use more conveniently than a tablet", so I thought I could intervene with some other options. I might be wrong though.