I read takes like this and I feel like it's gatekeeping.

I love writing software. I love that others are now getting to share this.

I think the issues here are valid. Equally there is lots of hard engineering work to reduce these issues. That's where I'm putting more energy.

My scale is decidedly non-Meta, but we're investing to make the whole team able to get their own PRs up. It's not been without it's bumps, but on the whole I think it's been transformative for everyone.

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jmull 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Don't ignore the context here. These are people hired to develop software for a company. They have an obligation to do so efficiently, with sufficient quality, and while balancing the company's short term and longer term business needs.

I think it's great that software development has been opened up by LLMs. Everyone should at least try it, IMO.

But your company's source isn't your personal playground and you shouldn't treat it as such.

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bluefirebrand 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> I read takes like this and I feel like it's gatekeeping

Yeah man, insisting on good engineering practices instead of "vibes" has always been gatekeeping

That's the actual point of engineering credentials

What are we even doing here

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DiscourseFan 8 hours ago | parent [-]

This was before the bot could competently code things. Software development is now a very different beast, and yes while there have been some very stupid and irresponsible uses of this new technology, many others are integrating it effectively into their workflows.

	▲	bluefirebrand 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> This was before the bot could competently code things Agree to disagree Getting something working is the absolute bare minimum, it's not "competent"

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teratron27 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Is a hiring bar gatekeeping then? Do you just hire the first person that applies because having them do a technical test gatekeeping?