Even 50hz is fine. I'd go so far as to say, barring any medical or sensitivity issue, if any person prioritizes a 120hz screen they are a victim to habit or marketing.

It adds zero value to the experience, and you're just looking for things to be annoyed by / brag about.

Modern displays are already cutting edge. They have improved in every way that's meaningful in the last 35 years. Refresh rate is just not meaningful enough. "35 year old performance" it most certainly is not. You just seem hellbent on using this arbitrary (to most people) benchmark as a filter.

FYI, I run my 17 pro almost exclusively on power saving mode to cap frame rates because the battery life extending by 30 mins is more infinitely more valuable than frame rate over 50. I've capped my fancy monitor's frame rate to 60 so it matches my macbook air. And it's all fine in this world, nothing here is "one notch above unusable".

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huddert 19 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"Even 4gb of memory is fine", "even 720p is fine", "even 2ghz CPU is fine", "even a membrane keyboard is fine", "even USB 2.0 is fine", "even 2 hours battery life is fine"...

Yeah it's all "fine". If these were the specs of the only laptop available to me then yeah it would be "fine". I could get things done. One or more of those things are deal-breakers for an awful lot of people.

For me, a rubbish display is a deal-breaker. I can't accept that they would compromise in this aspect, presumably to save a few bucks.

It's likely as difficult for me to understand how you could possibly prefer battery life over refresh rates as it is for you to do the opposite. And I'm not even talking crazy refresh rates here, 120hz or even 90hz at a minimum.

Would you buy a high-end laptop with 15 minute battery life? I'm not buying a new laptop with a 60hz display.

	▲	nirava 19 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		You're entitled to your preferences. In my opinion: Functional: - battery life - screen resolution (binary, <2k and >2k for laptops), brightness (binary: works in the sun or not), viewing angles (binary: good enough vs not), color (binary, good enough vs not) etc - connectivity options - ram - build quality etc etc Aesthetic: - color - finish - refresh rate - OS theming, animations and all that - material When you say "why won't they do 120hz?" I hear "Why won't they release a magenta colored device". That's fundamentally different than "why won't they add usb c" I don't think there's any value in 120hz. Nearly all content I consume is in 30-60 fps anyway. I don't need to see marginally smoother os animatations lol and thats nearly all 120hz is good for. PS Gamers might actually functionally need high refresh rates. I'm not in that space, but I recognise that for some specializations it might be absolutely deal-breaker.
	▲	batperson 16 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		These are business class laptops, there's no dedicated GPU. Where are you're going to utilize this high refresh rate? I'm pretty sure 99% of the time the integrated graphics would be working hard to churn out 120 frames of static views. I bet the vast majority of people would be perfectly happy to have 60hz display, longer battery life, and save a few bucks at the same time. Funny bonus anecdote: I reinstall my OS in december, only a few weeks ago did I realize it wasn't set to 144hz but 60hz, since I was busy with work since and didn't play any games I did not even realize.
	▲	tasuki 19 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> "Even 4gb of memory is fine", "even 720p is fine", "even 2ghz CPU is fine", "even a membrane keyboard is fine", "even USB 2.0 is fine", "even 2 hours battery life is fine"... No these things aren't. 60 hz is fine though. What does it matter that it's "old"? It matters whether it's functional. I for one prefer battery life over refresh frequency and will always choose 60 hz when available.

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hulitu 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Refresh rate is just not meaningful enough.

Until the bloody compositor updates the screen based on it or worse based on half of it.

	▲	nirava 19 hours ago \| parent [-]
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