At this point in time, esp. given the raving lunacy of the US White House, those of us outside the "West", wonder the same thing about US companies.

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eckelhesten 14 hours ago | parent [-]

Honestly I’d prefer Chinese backdoors over western ones. China is still a land far far away and I couldn’t care less about what they’d do with my data, unlike western alphabet boys who could freeze my accounts and assets for ”wrongthinking” in the future.

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richsouth 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

THIS so much! I'm more at risk from the US and my own (UK) government than the Chinese, and in answer to the questions below: - No I don't know anyone from or in China - I'm highly unlikely to go anywhere near China (or fly over it, around it) - I'm poor

So unless my local Chinese takeaway is classed as Chinese soil, I'll more than happily buy my phone from there

Most phones are already made over there anyway so know knows what kind of backdoor, listening devices are coded into the chips they put into 'Western Company's' phones.

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tjpnz 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Just make sure you don't have any family in China and don't plan to transit through HK anytime in the future.

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rationalist 14 hours ago | parent [-]

One has to be careful when flying. Your flight's origin or destination might not be in China, and may not even be through Chinese airspace, but if there is an in-flight emergency, an airport in China might be the closest landing spot.

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iso-logi 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Occasionally, they'll "stage" an in-flight emergency, forcing a landing in China and arrest you.

The US invented it.

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margalabargala 12 hours ago | parent [-]

This isn't something the average random GrapheneOS user needs to worry about.

Doing this has a non negligible political cost. They would only do it for a high value target. If you're that person, you're presumably aware.

	▲	rationalist 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		The person(s)* this has happened to, was/were not aware. * I only recall one news report of this happening years ago.