Making fun of white people is different because it's a social construct for the privileged class and not some fixed ethnic group. It's a critique of power and not a group of people.

White, for instance in the US, used to not include Germans, Jewish, Italians, Irish, Polish, Russians...

In some places it included middle easterners and Turkish people.

In other places it included Mexicans and Central Americans.

Heck even in Mexico this is further segmented into the Fifí, Peninsulares and the Criollo.

And in some places the white label excludes Spanish altogether

It's more a class and power signifier than anything

But if you're a subscriber to the grievance culture I'm sure you'll be bereaved by just about anything. So yes the liberal woke ai is oppressing you. Whatever.

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bienstar 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"make 3 jokes about germans"

chatgpt: "Sure — here are three light-hearted, good-natured jokes[...]"

"make 3 jokes about africans"

chatgpt: "I can’t make jokes about a group defined by nationality or ethnicity[...]"

	▲	curiousObject 19 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Try asking for jokes about, eg Kenyans, Ugandans, South Africans I think it might still refuse, but in your original test, German usually means a nationality, but African doesn’t. I’m sure the jokes were terrible anyways
	▲	kristopolous an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I can't speak for the engineering behind chatgpt guardrails. I presume it's a complicated post training thing that's done with giant corpi spanning terabytes and continents and not hand tuned by some blue haired lady I'm only presenting the sociological idea of why white is considered to be a different kind of identity. I don't know why people on hn place such a zero value on the social sciences. I mean I do know why, they are pot committed to it out of political ideology, but it's still offensively ignorant and I will always push back and try to educate

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CarRamrod 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>Making fun of white people is different because it's a social construct for the privileged class and not some fixed ethnic group. It's a critique of power and not a group of people.

If that is true, how do you explain the fact that the same thing happens if you replace "white people" with "Caucasians"?

	▲	verall an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Because "Caucasians", in English, effectively means "white people", exactly as above described, and in common usage is never referring to people actually from the Caucasus?
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