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cactusplant7374 a day ago

So no one has discovered the motivation of this person? They must have spent a lot of money to engage in this behavior.

ndiddy a day ago | parent | next [-]

Personally I believe that whoever is doing the copyright abuse either is the original developer of the game or has some sort of relationship with them. Even though the "international copyright registration" site has no real authority, the documents they submitted include high-res 3D renders of models from the game, design documents, and source code commented in Japanese, none of which were publicly available prior to the copyright "submission". I don't think it's just some random crazy person. It's true that they're behaving in a strange way and utilizing shady overseas institutions, but the owner of Rodik is listed in the Panama Papers as having an offshore company in the Cayman Islands ( https://offshoreleaks.icij.org/nodes/74594 ) so that fits his MO.

As for motivation, in Japan there's much less of a cultural norm around sharing information publicly compared to the West. It's much more "if I have this thing and you don't, and I don't know you, why should I give it to you?" Some people will even get annoyed with you if you follow them on Twitter and you don't know them, or if you link to their website without asking them first. With that context, I don't think there needs to be much of a motivation beyond "people are posting videos and copies of my game online and I don't want them to".

Of course whoever is doing this doesn't seem to want to make themselves known publicly besides all the takedown notices, so I doubt we'll ever conclusively find out who they are. Much of what was being taken down is valid fair use, so even if it is someone associated with the original developer I don't really feel sorry for them getting their automated takedown request powers taken away.

protocolture a day ago | parent [-]

>Personally I believe that whoever is doing the copyright abuse either is the original developer of the game or has some sort of relationship with them. Even though the "international copyright registration" site has no real authority, the documents they submitted include high-res 3D renders of models from the game, design documents, and source code commented in Japanese, none of which were publicly available prior to the copyright "submission".

Eh I am a bit of a collector and this line of thinking would let me establish copyright for a ton of games I have some precious treasures from.

Also I know a guy who worked for Sega and Nintendo for a while who is still sitting on a stack of design docs from his time in both, and he definitely doesn't own the IP for any of their games.

I suspect this person has located or inherited these items and is trying to establish copyright in the same way that Craig Wright is trying to pass himself off as Satoshi.

ndiddy a day ago | parent [-]

It's definitely all circumstantial evidence, but from all the recent stuff about Cookie's Bustle we know that whoever it is:

a) Is willing to at least tell the UK government that he's Keisuke Harigai (see this UK trademark registration: https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tmcase/page/Results/1/UK00... )

b) Is comfortable with registering companies in shady tax havens and knows his way around international IP registration/enforcement

c) Has a bunch of private data related to Cookie's Bustle's development

d) Is unwilling to make any sort of public statement beyond sending takedown notices

Meanwhile, Keisuke Harigai:

a) Is Keisuke Harigai

b) Runs a company out of the Cayman Islands

c) Would have access to all data related to Cookie's Bustle's development because he ran Rodik

d) Has not made any sort of statement related to Cookie's Bustle since 2001 ( https://web.archive.org/web/20010725131942/http://www.idevga... ) despite people attempting to contact him after the takedowns started

Obviously nothing concrete but I think he's the likeliest candidate.

protocolture 21 hours ago | parent [-]

The UK Filing is probably the most interesting. However, its hard to unravel the mail forwarder. If a mail forwarder let you establish a forward in someone elses name it might be an easy way to pretend to be someone else for the purposes of UK Trademarks.

That said, could also just be convenient for filing outside of japan, japanese street addresses are notorious.

The most convincing argument in favor of Harigai is why would anyone believe there is money to be made there. Its not like sending takedown notices is a renewable source of income.

Even if someone was making a movie about it, the secrecy doesnt make a lot of sense. The guy could clear so much up with just an email.

>Would have access to all data related to Cookie's Bustle's development because he ran Rodik

Just a few years ago, the son of one of the original Metal Fatigue developers found old nightly backups and handed them over to Nightdive. I just find this to be a pretty weak element of the argument. The person with the strongest claim, using the weakest methods to establish that claim doesnt make sense to me.

icepush 8 hours ago | parent [-]

The most plausible explanation, based on the facts so far provided, is that it is Harigai, and he is not happy with how the game/company turned out and does not want to be reminded about it anymore.

vessenes a day ago | parent | prev [-]

In fact they just spent a few thousand dollars according to the article. But they cost the museum probably 200k+ in time and legal fees - asymmetric copyright warfare.

thaumasiotes a day ago | parent [-]

But that can't be their motivation, because the museum was only targeted by coincidence.

Most people are unwilling to spend a few thousand dollars on a project that accomplishes nothing other than costing them a few thousand dollars. So we're curious what Brandon White was thinking.

vadansky a day ago | parent | next [-]

I think the theory was he had a rare copy and wanted to drive the price of it up.

duskwuff 20 hours ago | parent [-]

That's hard to reconcile with actions like issuing DMCA takedowns on videos of the game (or even Discord messages which mention it). If fewer people know a game exists, there's less of a market for copies of it.

bsder a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> Most people are unwilling to spend a few thousand dollars on a project that accomplishes nothing other than costing them a few thousand dollars. So we're curious what Brandon White was thinking.

1) You vastly underestimate the persistence of Internet trolls with too much time and money. It doesn't take many; it only takes one.

2) This could be someone testing the seams so that they can sell their services on more important targets.

qingcharles a day ago | parent [-]

They could also be mentally unwell. I've known people like this who the Internet massively empowers with its asymmetric abilities and its anonymity. This person might have unlimited free time to conduct their campaigns.

Ask any court clerk about the unending filings they get from disturbed individuals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Lee_Riches#History

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Martin

TurdF3rguson a day ago | parent [-]

Not to mention you know who (rhymes with bloatus)