I really hate Electron, but something is so rotten under macOS that even some of Apple's own native apps are appalling. The Settings and Passwords apps are so bad as to be almost unusable, I'd love to know how and why they're that bad - are they catalyst, or just badly made?

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nullbyte 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They did something to Settings after MacOS Monterey that made it very slow. I miss the snappiness of the old app!

	▲	dilap 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I don't know for a fact, but I'd bet a few digits of cold hard cash it's a SwiftUI rewrite that is to blame. (Any1 in the know want to chime in?) And yeah, it's terrible. Apple doesn't make good apps anymore. (This is part of why I think electron does so well -- it's not as good as a really good native app [e.g. Sublime Text], but it's way better than the sort of default whatever you'll get doing native. You get a lot of niceness that's built into the web stack.)
	▲	poszlem 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Well, perhaps it has something to do with the fact that they started using webviews for stuff like system UI: https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/inspecting-web-views-in-ma...

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jen20 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

While there are missing features (e.g. ability to merge records), I have to say that Passwords.app is worlds ahead of 1Password since their electron rewrite. System Settings is not the best (mostly because the search is broken), but Passwords is sufficiently good that I haven't bothered looking what it's written using, whereas I can immediately tell with Electron.

	▲	bloomca 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		System Settings is so slow for the amount of contents it has that I have to say it is probably the worst offender per content capita
	▲	drcongo 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Hard agree on 1Password. After Slack it's probably the worst Electron app on my Mac.

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isjdisjdj 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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