| ▲ | bob1029 6 hours ago |
| I feel like Apple pulled an Instant Pot with the M1 MacBook Pro. I still haven't had a single situation where I felt like spending more money would improve my experience. The battery is wearing out a bit, but it started out life with so much runtime that losing a few hours doesn't seem to matter. |
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| ▲ | swyx 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > The battery is wearing out a bit, but it started out life with so much runtime that losing a few hours doesn't seem to matter. this is my exact opposite experience. my M3 Max from 2 years ago now has <2hrs battery life at best. wondering if any experts here can help me figure out what is going on? what should i be expecting? |
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| ▲ | varenc an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | As others have said, keep the battery in the 80%-30% range. Use the `batt` CLI tool to hard limit your max charge to 80%. Sadly though, if you're already down to <2hrs, this might not make sense for you. Also prevent it being exposed to very hot or cold temps (even when not in use) I type this from an M3 Max 2023 MBP that still has 98% battery health. But admittedly it's only gone through 102 charge cycles in ~2 years. (use `pmset -g rawbatt` to get cycle count or `system_profiler SPPowerDataType | grep -A3 'Health'` to get health and cycles) | |
| ▲ | 1123581321 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | What is your maximum capacity in Settings > Battery Health? What processes are running with significant CPU? What's the typical temperature of the laptop according to a stats app? (Temperature is a good proxy for general energy use.) I'm typing this on an M3 Max; its max battery capacity is 88%. I've got some things running (laptop average temp is 50-55C, fans off), screen is half brightness, and it's projected to go from 90% to 0% in five hours. I don't usually baby it enough to test this, but 8-10 hours should be achievable. | | | |
| ▲ | hmottestad 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | My M3 Max can burn through battery much faster than my M1 Max ever could. And some apps are really inefficient. New Codex app drains my battery. If you are using Codex I recommend minimizing it, since it’s the UI that uses most power. | | |
| ▲ | linsomniac an hour ago | parent [-] | | A couple weeks ago I was working remote and didn't bring a power adapter, and I realized a couple hours in that my battery was getting kind of low. I clicked on the battery icon and got a list of what was using a lot of power: 1 was an hour long video chat using Google Meet, the other was Claude desktop (which I hadn't used at all that morning). What in the world is an idle Claude Desktop doing that uses so much power? |
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| ▲ | 0_____0 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Charge habits with batteries make a huge difference. If your use pattern is that once per day, you take the device from 100% to 10%, you put a lot more wear on the battery than if it kind of hovers in the 30%-80% range for example, or if it just hangs out nearish top-of-charge all day when you're at your desk. Hot take: people should get used to, and expect to, replace device batteries 1 or 2 times during the device lifetime. They're the main limiting factor on portable device longevity, and engineers make all kinds of design tradeoffs just to make that 1 battery that the device ships with last long enough to not annoy users. If we could get people used to taking their device in for a battery once every couple of years, we could dramatically reduce device waste, and also unlock functionality that's hidden behind battery-preserving mechanisms. | | |
| ▲ | Analemma_ 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | BatFi is a macOS application which will prevent your battery from charging to over 80% by default. macOS does have a version of this built-in but it’s “intelligent charging” I don’t really trust, and I’d rather just have a hard 80% limit except when I override that. |
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| ▲ | Analemma_ 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I set Claude loose on my computer and said “why is my battery life so bad?” and it found an always-running audio subsystem kernel extension (Parrot) which didn’t need to be there and was preventing the CPU from going into low-power states. My battery life got noticeably better when I deleted it. I’m not even sure how it got installed, possibly when I installed Zoom for an interview once but I don’t know. Point is, at least in one case, AI can help track down battery hogs. | |
| ▲ | speedgoose 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Also check which apps use the energy. |
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| ▲ | rajma 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| M1 pro MacBook pro here as well. Just today I was thinking I have no need to upgrade until M7 and by then maybe even MacBook Air would do. Especially since I will have my home server (dgx spark) available for anything serious anyway. So excited for the Mac studio configs though. M5 ultra 1TB would be a huge leap for serious home server builders. |
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| ▲ | maxverse an hour ago | parent [-] | | I use an M1 for personal development an an M4 for work. I'm a typical dev. I don't feel any difference. |
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| ▲ | willis936 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I just bought this model in the past year for $600 and it still feels like a great bargain. |
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| ▲ | ireflect 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Same. It looks like battery replacement from ifixit is not too difficult, so I plan to do that when the time comes. Incidentally, I just switched to Asahi Linux, but that was for software quality and openness reasons, rather than anything to do with performance. |
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| ▲ | fridder 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | How's Asahi treating you? If I upgrade from my m1max, I was going to try it out |
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| ▲ | darknavi 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I wish this sort of thing was encouraged in the modern capitalist technology space. Unfortunately, number always must go up (and the rate at which the number goes up, also must go up). |
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| ▲ | rfwhyte 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| You can very easily replace the battery yourself for less than $100 USD too if it ever becomes enough of an issue that you feel you actually need to do something about it. My M1 Max is at about 88% battery health, but it still gets 4X-6X longer on battery (At full performance too boot) compared to my old PoS Razer laptop, so I likely won't be replacing my battery any time soon. |