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| ▲ | SirMaster 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| You mean bumped $100. M4 MacBook Pro and M5 MacBook Pro started at $1599 with 512GB SSD. Now it starts at $1699, a $100 bump but comes with a 1TB SSD. Previously it would have cost $1799 for the 1T SSD, so it's a $100 bump on base price but you are also getting 1TB SSD for $100 less than before. |
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| ▲ | brailsafe 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | To me, this is kind of like Telecom providers giving you bandwidth headroom that realistically should have been there for a long time, but removing the option to get a cheaper plan whether you'd otherwise pay for the upgrade or not. Like for my last upgrade, I bit the bullet and upgraded to 1TB for the first time ever instead of base storage at Apple's absurd prices, so it's good, but if I'd not have been willing to spend money on that at all, they lifted the floor. My cell phone plan has been increasing every year by small amounts, but my usage pattern hasn't changed, and meanwhile they've restricted HD streaming using Deep Packet Inspection or whatever, so I theoretically have a 100GB full speed cap but can't practically use more than 20gb anyway, so they're pricing the bandwidth into the contract but I can't save money by getting a lower ceiling |
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| ▲ | nozzlegear 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > I'd love to have customers like Apple. Bumps $200: "it didn't change!!!" Try making a good product that people love? |
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| ▲ | ezfe 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The base storage increased as well, and the upgrade prices for RAM are the same, which is where the real issue was. |
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| ▲ | mschuster91 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > And no power adapter included. To be fair, ever since the advent of high power USB-C PD that really, really is not needed any more, way too many power bricks are effectively e-waste. People already have USB-C power bricks and docks everywhere and unlike pre-USB-C generations, you can use them not just across different generations of hardware, but across vendors as well. |
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| ▲ | NetMageSCW 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | I doubt if that many have USB-C high power bricks unless they are upgrading from another USB-C laptop. |
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| ▲ | re-thc 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > It did change. They bumped $200 on the entire line. I wonder if that would happen regardless of RAM, e.g. for tariffs etc. |
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| ▲ | vile_wretch 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| The EU forbids them from including power adapters. They're still included everywhere else. |
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| ▲ | Romario77 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | EU doesn't forbid including. The new law requires there to be an option without the adapter. If the manufacturer chooses so they can have an option with and without the adapter. | |
| ▲ | hu3 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I can buy a laptop right now close to home and it comes with power adapter. | |
| ▲ | gambiting 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Except that it's literally not true and people are repeating it for some stupid reason, I assume you just never actually looked it up - laptops are specifically excluded from that regulation, and in fact Apple does bundle a power adapter with their laptops, just not on the cheapest models. | | |
| ▲ | jlokier 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | > in fact Apple does bundle a power adapter with their laptops, just not on the cheapest models. Here in the UK, they no longer include the power adapter even with the top models. I just specced out a fully-loaded M5 Max Macbook Pro, 128GB RAM, 8TB storage on the Apple Store, and it doesn't include a power adapter by default. The 140W power adapter can be added as an option to the MacBook Pro for an additional £99 + VAT, or purchased separately. If you purchase separately you can of course choose a lower-power adapter for a lower price. Now that a power adapter isn't included and you have to pay for it separately, it might make more sense to get one of the good brands of GaN power adapters instead, because they are smaller than the Apple ones for the same power, and have more ports. | | |
| ▲ | gambiting 14 minutes ago | parent [-] | | >>Here in the UK, they no longer include the power adapter even with the top models That's incredibly stupid(of apple), I'm in the UK and literally got my M4 Max MacBook Pro delivered on Friday, it came with a power adapter. |
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