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nsbk 8 hours ago

The hardware looks amazing! Too bad they will ship with Tahoe installed. I’m not upgrading until I see in which direction the next Mac OS release goes

satoqz 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This. I have been a big (and loud) fan of M-series hardware from the beginning, but if Apple is going to keep making their software worse, I will find myself lingering on older generations that run Asahi Linux or going back to a traditional x86_64 laptop instead of buying into new generations.

carlmr 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've upgraded to Tahoe at 26.2, zero complaints from my side. Haven't had any runaway memory leaks or similar that were reported.

jillesvangurp 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Same here. I know some people are unhappy with some of the UX tweaks but honestly I don't notice much of it. The whole liquid glass thing is a bit gimmicky. Other than that, I don't see much difference. The rounded corners on windows are a bit silly. But I don't spend a lot of time fiddling with windows. Most of my windows are maximized (not full screen). I'm sure there are other issues people dislike that I just haven't noticed.

I use my laptop for development. I don't actually use most of the built in applications. My browser is Firefox, I use codex, vs code, intellij, iterm2, etc. Most of that works just fine just as it did on previous versions of the OS. I actually on purpose keep my tool chains portable as I like to have the option to switch back to Linux when I want to. I've done that a few times. I come back for the hardware, not the OS.

In my experience, if you don't like Apple's OS changes that is unfortunate but they don't seem to generally respond to a lot of the criticism. Your choices are to get further and further out of date, switch to something else, or just swallow your pride. Been there done that. Windows is a "Hell No" for me at this point. I'll take the UX, with all the pastel colors that came and went and all the other crap that got unleashed on macs over the last ten years. Definitely a case of the grass not being greener on Windows. Even with the tele tubby default desktop in XP back in the day.

I can deal with Linux (and use that on and off on one of my laptops). However, that just doesn't run that well on mac hardware. And any other hardware seems like a big downgrade to me. Both Windows and Linux are arguably a lot worse in terms of UX (or lack thereof). Linux you can tweak. And you kind of have to. But it just never adds up to consistent and delightful. Windows, well, at this point liking that is probably a form of Stockholm Syndrome. If that doesn't bother you, good for you.

So, Mac OS it is for me as everything else is worse. I've in the past deferred updates to new versions of Mac OS as well. Generally you can do that for a while but eventually it becomes annoying when things like homebrew and other development toys start assuming you run something more recent. And of course for security reasons you might just not drag your feet too long. Just my personal, pragmatic take.

arianvanp 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Closing Tabs in Safari till takes more than a second though. And if you hold Cmd-W to close all of them it just completely locks up and crashes. Still not fixed since the release of Safari 26.

Literally unusable

nozzlegear 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Never had this problem, been on Tahoe since it released. My safari tabs are buttery, silken smooth.

AdamN 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Works fine for me. I wonder if you have some extension or script on one of the sites you use slowing down the tab closure.

herpderperator 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This sounds like swap needing to be swapped in and then released. Check your memory usage.

alwillis 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I’ve been running the macOS 26.4 beta and have none of these issues.

nhubbard 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I will say that 26.4 beta 2 was the first time I've regretting using betas since Sonoma beta 2. The Sonoma beta ruined the firmware on my machine and Apple had to replace the logic board; the latest Tahoe beta broke all networking on my machine and I had to erase the installation to fix everything. I've since dropped off the beta train for the time being.

I already left the beta train on my iPhone because I had too many issues getting my grocery apps to allow me to place orders without going to my laptop and doing it in a web browser.

Analemma_ 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm on an M4 Pro MacBook-- basically the fastest computer you could buy from Apple before today-- and opening/closing the tab sidebar in Safari on Tahoe takes multiple seconds, even if I have only 4-6 tabs open, and seems to drop to 5 FPS. It's comically bad.

It's so bad I switched back to Chrome. I had thought Chrome had a major battery life penalty compared to Safari on Macs, but I checked more up-to-date info and apparently that's outdated.

satvikpendem 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The next macOS will be touch screen centric with elements getting bigger when you're close to touching them, rumors say. That being said, I run Tahoe and it works perfectly fine to me, I am not sure what issues people have with it. Sure, some corner radii aren't exactly the same but I honestly couldn't give less of a shit as long as it runs the programs I need.

nsbk 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Safari routinely using 20+ Gb of memory with a handful of tabs open. Safari tabs refusing to close. Unresponsive System Settings window. Random application freezes and crashes, Apple Music not playing music. This is on a 32Gb M1 Max. My M1 Air on Sequoia doesn't experience any of these issues, even if it has half the unified memory.

satvikpendem 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I never had any of those issues, but then again I don't use Safari or other Apple apps like music.

nsbk 5 hours ago | parent [-]

The fact that avoiding Apple-made software provides an overall better user experience is very telling

satvikpendem 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Not necessarily, because I never used Apple apps, it's not like I'm avoiding them now because they're ostensibly buggy (as others don't seem to have the same issues in this thread).

ErneX 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I read a rumor about it being “touch friendly instead of touch 1st”.

gas9S9zw3P9c 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I moved away from mac because of the OS and couldn't be happier. The hardware may be great but non-Apple hardware is fine too, and Linux is significantly better experience than MacOS these days.

pier25 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah this is a real issue with these new Macs. I would wait until macOS 27 to see the direction Apple takes.

silverwind 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Hopefully less `border-radius`.

hu3 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Just yesterday, my colleague's mac Time Machine couldn't recover backup and they had to reinstall everything.

But I think this predates Tahoe.

zarzavat 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Silent corruption has been a feature of Time Machine for the last 19 years. But haven't you seen the new glass effects, isn't it cool?