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dotancohen 3 hours ago

That's why they've been hitting residential buildings and hotels as well? They assume that because their proxies (Hamas, Hezbollah) hide in civilian structures, so does the US army?

All these attempts to justify Iranian terror demonstrate just how deep Qatari influence online has been. And even Qatar is being attacked by Iran now.

kasey_junk 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Is Hezbollah hiding in the elementary school that got bombed? Perhaps that’s where the Iranian nuclear research was done?

We attacked them. Full stop. And as far as I can tell we haven’t given them any conditions for when we will stop bombing them. In what moral framework do you have to just accept another sovereign, a vastly more powerful one, invading your country without fighting back?

ta20240528 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I can't guess what the USA wants other than a distraction from the raping-of- children saga, but I bet Israel would settle for "we acknowledge your right to exist and won't fund or encourage organisations that plan to harm you."

If Saudi Arabia can get there…

kasey_junk 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The world has seen what Israel does when they’re attacked. They don’t get to set moral frameworks anymore.

ta20240528 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Agreed. But that wasn't the OP's question.

atsaloli 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The primary condition is giving up nuclear ambitions.

LAC-Tech 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It is too late, Israel already has nuclear weapons.

cced 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> We attacked them

During negotiations, for the second time.

bayindirh 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I believe they have warned that any country offering support will be targeted, even before the attacks began.

So they are cowards if they do what they say, and they are cowards if they don't do anything.

What should they do? Evacuate the country and offer the land for free?

throw-the-towel 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> They assume that because their proxies (Hamas, Hezbollah) hide in civilian structures, so does the US army?

> Two US Defense Department employees were wounded when an Iranian drone struck a hotel in Bahrain's capital Manama, The Washington Post reported Monday.

LAC-Tech 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I genuinetely do not think Hasbara like this works anymore. The overton window on this has irrevocably shifted since 2023 and it would be a better strategy for you to live within this new reality, rather than making ludicrous claims that the middle eastern country most vehemently trying to shape western views on the region is... Qatar. It just comes across as an obvious projection, and only encourages sentiment that has a real potential to become harmful to you personally.

That is, unless posts like thos are designed to encourage that sentiment, which I sometimes suspect.

lyu07282 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I think this shifted overtone window has partially to do with why they started this war to begin with, they see the writing on the wall and their window of opportunity is closing. Trump is at historic lows in polling [1]; 65% of democrats now sympathize more with Palestinians over Israelis (17%) [2]. HN is just a generally reactionary place, I wouldn't read to much into that.

[1] https://www.natesilver.net/p/trump-approval-ratings-nate-sil...

[2] https://news.gallup.com/poll/702440/israelis-no-longer-ahead...

LAC-Tech 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The more telling figure is that 50% of *republicans* under 50 do not support Israel. Even Charlie Kirk was posting about how awful an idea an Iran war was before he was killed in mysterious circumstances.

The Epstein files with their derogatory and supremacist remarks made about "goyim" have not helped. Neither has the PR dwmage control to either ignore that or claim he was working for Russia or Qatar.

The times they are a changin'.

lyu07282 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> All these attempts to justify Iranian terror

At the end of the day you have to understand the reality that Iran is a sovereign nation that is going to defend itself. And yes they are hitting residential buildings and hotels with US military personnel present. None of this is terrorism, this is a nation state retaliating after an attack on their nation, you have to understand this basic concept, actions have consequences.

This is not propaganda, you are just willfully ignorant. If you want to destroy Iran you have to take retaliation into account, everything else is just propaganda, what do you expect them to do instead? Just lie down and take it?

You can't use retaliation of the nation you attacked as justification of why the attack was justified, its circular logic, this is textbook propaganda you are repeating.

XorNot an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I mean if you want to put your geopolitical blinkers on, sure...but how to beat America is old news at this point: cause casualties however you can, and wait for the US to give up.

Complain about it all you want but what are you going to do? The US is already bombing them.

Perhaps all of this goes into the big bucket labelled "war is expensive and unpredictable, maybe try diplomacy?"

Which the current administration has made a note of promptly tearing up prior agreements with everyone anyway so...whoops I guess.