> Instinctively, I think morning light is important to our biology for a daily reset

I'd bet people would happily trade away the inkling of light they get during their winter commute before locking themselves into their office for some extra daylight when they leave that office.

Daylight is most enjoyable if you can actually make use of it.

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gwerbin an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah I don't agree with this at all. I want the light when I'm getting up in the morning. When I'm coming home from work it's the end of the day: I'm tired, I'm hustling home to do errands or chores or make dinner, I'm probably going to spend that time inside anyway because that's where the things that I need to get done are, and if it it's going to be cold and windy, it's going to be cold and windy in the evening. I much much prefer daylight in the morning and I like when noon is actually noon (+/- depending on longitude). I'm not looking forward to the time change and I'm not looking forward to the sun setting at 9 PM.

If it wasn't for that damn 9 AM Monday meeting (ugh) I would just keep my clocks sent to standard time and start work an hour late in the summer.

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dzhiurgis 38 minutes ago | parent [-]

> I want the light when I'm getting up in the morning

I apologize society is inconveniencing you.

	▲	gegtik 9 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		interesting, I see his preference is some kind of slavering radical antisocial screed whereas yours is the universal desire of all of society

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pkulak an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's what everyone says. But it turns out people hate spending their morning in darkness for more light at night. Which makes perfect sense:

https://washingtonian.com/2022/03/15/the-us-tried-permanent-...

> the inkling of light they get during their winter commute

It's not an inkling. Unless you roll out of bed and instantly onto your commute, you're getting natural sunlight through all your windows for hours every morning. That's exactly when you need it.

	▲	messe 15 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		That has to be latitude dependent. > you're getting natural sunlight through all your windows for hours every morning Hah "hours". Not in Northern Europe you're not. My commute is dark on both sides. If I had to choose which side I'd prefer to be brighter I'd prefer the end of the day rather than feeling like my daylight has been wasted in the office. I shift my schedule in winter to make up for this as best I can.

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allknowingfrog 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Well, I'm not one of those people. I like waking up with the sun and driving to work in the daylight. The idea that DST solves anything absolutely blows my mind. If you want the ability to start your work day earlier and end it earlier, that seems like a worker protection bill that needs to be passed. DST is the kludgiest kludge that ever kludged.

	▲	davidw 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> If you want the ability to start your work day earlier and end it earlier, that seems like a worker protection bill that needs to be passed. I don't think that's very realistic though is it? School times are fixed and that anchors a lot of families to those specific times, and businesses tend to have set hours. Changing the time to give people more light in the evening frees up a bunch of people to enjoy some sunlight without making it a whole fight to have different hours at work.
	▲	alpinisme 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Where I live June sunrise (with DST) is 5:11am and sunset is 8:21pm (a city on the American east coast). I just can’t imagine a majority of people would want 4:11 rising and 7:21 setting.
	▲	at_compile_time 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		>If you want the ability to start your work day earlier and end it earlier, that seems like a worker protection bill that needs to be passed. If that's what passes for aspiration these days then the labour movement truly is dead.
	▲	sjkoelle an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		yeah im curious if people will end up liking it. sucks from my perspective.

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at_compile_time 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The problem of offices is not when we spend time in them but rather that we spend time in them at all. What a banal hell it is we have consented to endure compared to the comforts of our homes or of any space actually designed for the wellness of human beings or even focused work.

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stult 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Except for people like me who struggle to wake up before dawn. And whether people prefer light after work doesn't change the available scientific evidence which suggests there are significant negative health effects of waking up too early relative to sunrise, but no significant health benefits from having sunlight hours after work. People's preferences in this case are generally only mildly held and typically are not well informed by the science. I suspect if more people were aware of the deleterious health effects, their stated preferences would change.