SE 3rd gen here as my daily driver. Small form factor and Touch ID. The perfect iPhone IMO.

Not looking forward to having to settle for those comically large phones with Face ID for my next one.

dilyevsky an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I get that getting rid of touchid haptic eliminates dead space but still blows my mind they couldn't or refused to figure out screen-based touch id as an option at least. Samsung has it...

	▲	daemonologist an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Under-screen fingerprint readers are definitely inferior - slower and less reliable. I (Android user) wish they'd revert to back-of-device readers, which were amazing. (I also wish for smaller screens and no-adhesive battery swaps though, neither of which seems likely to happen.)

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frereubu 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The thing I've come to like about FaceID on my 13 mini is that I can require it for certain apps to open that don't require it - e.g. messaging as opposed to banking which generally require some kind of auth by default - which is much better security in case someone snatches it out of my hand while it's unlocked. It's pretty seamless because I'm generally looking at the device anyway, and it's much less faff than it would be with TouchID.

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jeffbee 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I think the way the Pixel does it is strictly better across the board. The fingerprint sensor doesn't sacrifice screen space, and the platform offers face unlock as well.

	▲	cyberax 9 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		I only wish Pixel retained the back fingerprint sensor. It was sooooo much better than even the current under-the-screen sensor.

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rubee64 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Same. Home button is sooo much better than swiping gestures

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bubblewand 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The physical home button is, no bullshit, one of the greatest pieces of UI ever. No, I am not kidding, I really think that. It’s crazy to me that they abandoned it, the gestures that replace its functionality are overall-worse and cluttering the gesture system with even more of them is bad for the overall UX.

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dilyevsky an hour ago | parent [-]

Maybe you know this but it wasn't a physical button since i think iphone 7 - it was a haptic sensor.

	▲	layer8 28 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		True, and in my opinion it was a worse experience than the previous physical one.

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m463 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I "adapted" to losing the fingerprint reader.

Wow, it has a lot of unexpected downsides.

I've a lot of unexpected behavior from the faceid thing. Lots of unexpected swipe-ups that drop me out of an app and put me on the home screen. Can't unlock in the dark, too close to your face, off to the side, in your pocket. Lots of "I saw your face an unlocked" that I didn't know had happened.

fingerprint sensor unlocked when you wanted it to, with haptics. switching apps was a button operation, not happening when you didn't expect it.

	▲	lynndotpy an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Plus, fingerprint scanners can be activated without breaking eye contact with the person you're talking to. It's very anti-social technology. It makes one look completely like a tool to pull out their iPhone and stare at it for ten seconds while checking out with a cashier. Deeply embarrassing and very annoying.

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loeg 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm also a touchID / iphone 8 size fan, but the nice cameras/zoom in flagship models are hard to give up. At least Face ID has improved significantly from the early days of iphone 10 -- it's faster and more reliable than it was on the older models if you tried it back then.