What do you call it when the authoritarians start, then? Are we not allowed to call it that until we’re not allowed to go to the courts or to speak about what’s happening?

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epolanski 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You call it for what it is: an executive with authoritarian tendencies.

Democracy is not an on/off light bulb, it's a material under constant stress that can bend a lot before breaking.

But if you start calling it broken, while it's bending your thesis is easily refutable and you get called out for being a radical whatever.

	▲	hypeatei 6 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> You call it for what it is: an executive with authoritarian tendencies. Okay, but that's beating around the bush and a very milquetoast way to describe it. > easily refutable and you get called out for being a radical whatever. This is equivalent to being punched repeatedly by a bully and being scared that he'll cry "assault!" when you punch him back. At some point, you cease to exist if you don't act.
	▲	Hikikomori 4 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		What's missing from the general definitions of fascism?

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satvikpendem 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Authoritarianism? Dictatorship? Fascism is a specific form of those that doesn't necessarily map to current forms.

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kergonath 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

How does it not map? Read Umberto Eco and I don’t really see any point that is not present at all in trumpism. Or, in more words: https://acoup.blog/2024/10/25/new-acquisitions-1933-and-the-... .

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orwin 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Fascism is just a nationalism authoritarianism that is very hierarchical and believe in an "interior enemy" (for MAGA it's the deep state) that is the root cause of all their country isseus, and once it's purged the country can take its rightfull place at the top, and you with it.

I agree that US is not fascist yet, the hierarchy isn't set, and the economy isn't close to an extractive autarky, but philosophically, it's close, don't you think? I mean, ranting against traitors all the time is to me a very, very big point in favor of this being fascism.

	▲	DFHippie 5 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> believe in an "interior enemy" (for MAGA it's the deep state) It's their neighbors, not the "deep state". Renee Good and Alex Pretti were the enemy within. People in inflatable costumes or pussy hats are the enemy within. Uppity kids in high school who get thrown to the drown and put in a choke hold. People filming ice on public streets. They are the enemy within to MAGA. It isn't distant and abstract. It's personal.
	▲	kergonath 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> ranting against traitors all the time And the "enemy of the people", rhetoric, and the vermin that corrupts the nation’s blood. I mean, these people are not exactly subtle.