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rayiner 5 hours ago

The irony is that almost every single one of the countries these foreigners come from would do exactly the same thing were the shoe on the other foot. If running government-funded research to maximize the opportunities for native born people is “fascism,” then every country in Asia, Africa, and the Middle East is “fascist.” Borderless universalism is a niche idea even in the west, and virtually non-existent outside it.

tzs 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> The irony is that almost every single one of the countries these foreigners come from would do exactly the same thing were the shoe on the other foot.

I'm having a hard imagining Canada, Australia, New Zealand, France, Norway, Switzerland, Germany, the UK, the Netherlands, Spain, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, or Italy, to name a few countries of the countries from which scientists have come to work on NIST projects putting these kind of restrictions on American scientists coming to work on non-classified research at their labs.

5upplied_demand 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Imagine using this logic in the 1930s when scientists from Germany, Hungary, and Italy were flocking to the US.

Did the advances they helped spur actually maximize opportunities for native born people in the long run?

Would we be better off if we had blocked them from researching in the US?

satao 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

you present a lot of conviction yet there is not a single source for your opinion that was presented.

busterarm 5 hours ago | parent [-]

He's from one of those countries.