I'm currently looking for a new Android phone. I don't like the Pixel and deep integration with Google. I looked at the Fairphone with /e/OS and the Pixel with GrapheneOS, but unfortunately there's no certainty that everything will work or where the boundary is between Google Android and "clean" Android. For example, it turned out that Android Auto is essentially Google Auto and I don't what find out what is dependent on Google. I want something that just works. A phone isn't something I want to tinker with like Linux ten years ago. So basically the choice comes down to Samsung and Chinese brands.

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pferde 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Pixel's "deep integration with Google" is in the OS, so if you replace the OS with GrapheneOS, there is no deep integration anymore.

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HunOL 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, but I made an argument about /e/OS and GrapheneOS. You never knows what will work or stop working.

	▲	Itoldmyselfso 8 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Motorola just made a deal with GrapheneOS, so I'd vager they're going to be around for longer on that basis alone.
	▲	pferde 10 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Sure, but I was only responding to the reservation you expressed about Pixel: "I don't like the Pixel and deep integration with Google."

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Georgelemental 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

GrapheneOS has sandboxed Google Play, which allows using most Google services (including Android Auto) while limiting their deep OS access.