Jolla has announced a new phone using its Sailfish OS so providing a full-stack European alternative to the Android/Apple duopoly.

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joe_mamba 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah but the core issue is that all apps for digital services for both private and government, at least in my EU country, are only shipped for the iOS/Android duopoly.

So having yet another 100th FOSS linux phone that won't run those apps is pointless until apps for these phones are shipped with feature parity, and they probably won't get shipped until these phones reach some critical mass adoption, and they won't get critical mass adoption because they don't run the popular apps.

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Risse 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Check out this thread on Sailfish OS forums regarding EU Banking apps. I was surprised on how many actually work.

https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/banking-apps-on-sailfish-os/1...

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joe_mamba 9 hours ago | parent [-]

If this is similar to LineageOS, then it's always potentially only a matter of time until some banking and payment apps stop working due to failing security attestation pushed by a Google update.

We need native apps that pass attestation out of the box for that phone/OS, not relying on hacks that may or may not work in the future.

This is not good UX and it poisons the well if you push users to a new platform then they discover some apps don't work as you promised.

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femto 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Beats me why banks can't use a FIDO2 enabled web site.

	▲	joe_mamba 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Banks used to give us those RSA tokens in the past for securely logging in to the web UI, but then discovered they can cut down on cost since everyone has two brands of smartphones.

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actionfromafar 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Jolla phones can run Android apps.

	▲	maratc 9 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Your point seems to be "Some Jolla phones can run some Android apps," while GP's issue is that "It's not true that all Jolla phones can run all Android apps."
	▲	Taro3 9 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
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