That's not the one. and of course they do and I'm super happy to hear about that partnership. I highly recommend checking them out!

A year ago I got a "10 month old flagship" Moto, after research. For half the price of top Samsung that was available locally at the moment in stores, I got:

- Worse, but still really great CPU (Snapdragon 8s gen3 instead of "non-s" for Samsung)

- faster storage (UFS 4.0)

- more RAM (16GB LPDDR5x)

- much better charging (125W with... equally that strong charger in the box, 50W wireless, 10W reverse)

- much more storage (1TB)

- in a very slim wooden-back case :O

It also has great optically stabilized camera (with some challenges when it comes to "shutter speed" - it does a lot of processing so your photos are sometimes timed awkwardly), amazing low light for main camera, but that's a rabbit hole I don't want to go into.

Software-wise it was not as good as the fame goes, but still very good. I do have all the newest upgrades (currently Android 16 with Feb sec update) but it was not as "vanilla" as people claim. Still better than most things around and in the end I was able to trivially remove everything I don't like (which persisted across updates). With exception of their weird Dolby app that is useless anyway. This partnership with GrapheneOS makes me think they are still serious about clean OS.

The phone also has VERY GOOD support for external screens. I'm really impressed by that, I don't see any real drawbacks compared to Samsung's Dex here. Motorola should really invest into promoting that more, but I'm confused with some newer phones lacking screen support (make sure to double check!). And by good I mean good: on that phone I was able to play Diablo mobile on full external screen with wireless gamepad, while texting on the phone, with no hiccups and hardware reporting temps around 40-42 Celsius.

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backscratches 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Its frustrating that some motorola flagships dont do video out

	▲	szszrk 12 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Exactly the catch I mentioned. This should be present by default on any model, especially that under the brand of Lenovo (also partialy by Motorola, as I understand) they sell ~250 phones meant for business while specifically targeting that functionality (with matching monitors, I think they can do some sort of monitor buil-in webcam sharing, even). Several phones downgraded in this regard, even going to usb2.0, like Fairphone :/

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gib444 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> A year ago I got a "10 month old flagship" Moto,

Model name?

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szszrk 12 hours ago | parent [-]

it's edge 50 ultra

it's hilarious how this was considered by "youtubers" an outdated model when I was buying it.

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71bw 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's because the 8sg3 is a terribly botched chip, to the point where it requires comically overengineered cooling to function properly.

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szszrk 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah... and it's still a great cpu. What are consequences to the user? I failed to find a use case where it makes a sweat. It's insanely good price to value ratio.

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71bw 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Battery life and thermal performance.

	▲	szszrk 8 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Once again: are there any known problems that are not theoretical? I'm having 1,5 days+ with screen on time that I feel ashamed to admit, plus as I wrote before, never had it overheat despite gaming on external devices etc.

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gib444 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Thanks! Looks decent (60 Pro does too)

> youtubers

marketers ;)

	▲	szszrk 9 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It is. I only wish it wasn't curved screen. It's a gimmick with no benefits and several negatives.