Go ahead and trust them.

I won't.

Then keep using your phone made from magic pixie dust, because we live in reality where you can't just grow out "the perfect" hardware company from a seed.

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nunobrito 13 hours ago | parent [-]

There are other Android distributions without suspicious funding sources that don't force you into google-owned hardware, nor give you as second option to jump directly into NSA hardware suppliers.

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karel-3d 13 hours ago | parent [-]

But they are not NSA hardware suppliers.

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nunobrito 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, they are. Since decades now. DYOR.

	▲	strcat 12 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		No, you're mixing up entirely different companies. GrapheneOS is working with the Lenovo subsidiary.
	▲	karel-3d 10 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		It's a different company. They just share the same name. You don't do your research properly. This is a Chinese-owned company, part of Lenovo. (I mostly don't trust them because they are Chinese-owned, but then, everything is made either in China or by China-friendly Foxconn so, whatever.)

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omnimus 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I would like to know what kind of phone you are using.

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nunobrito 13 hours ago | parent [-]

At the moment this model: https://www.hotwav.com/products/hotwav-hyper-8-ultra-rugged-... with a modified Android based on LineageOS.

Connects to the world using GSM and radio using satellites throught https://geogram.radio

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flexagoon 12 hours ago | parent [-]

So your solution is using a dropshipped phone from a sketchy no-name Chinese company?

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nunobrito 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yes.

You are arguing for absolute privacy, I am arguing for _more_ privacy than adopting well-known spyware devices.

There is a difference.

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kotaKat 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

And I'm sure that Mediatek chipset has already been pre-backdoored for access by the folks at Cellebrite/Greykey/etc :|

	▲	nunobrito 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Now provide a reliable link for that claim.

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karel-3d 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's a different, unrelated company. You don't trust it because of a shared logo?

The mobile motorola is a fully Chinese company that just shares the brand because of history. It's nonsense to not trust it because a different company does NSA stuff. This is a basically unrelated Chinese company!

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nunobrito 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Very different. Oh so different.

That argument worked suprisingly well with boomers. Those with access to the internet in the last 20 years will find absolutely zero difference when a company changes ownership on the surface while retaining the previous business links.

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