XML has been "spooky old technology" for over a decade now. It's heyday was something like 2002.

Nobody dares advertise the XML capabilities of their product (which back then everybody did), nobody considers it either hot new thing (like back then) or mature - just obsolete enterprise shit.

It's about as popular now as J2EE, except to people that think "10 years ago" means 1999.

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rhdunn an hour ago | parent | next [-]

XML is used a lot in standards and publishing industries -- JATS, EPUB, ODF, DOCX/XLSX/..., DocBook, etc. are all XML based/use XML.

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michaelbarton an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Without being facetious, isn’t HTML a dialect of XML and very widely used?

	▲	Twisol an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		HTML is actually a dialect of SGML. XHTML was an attempt to move to an XML-based foundation, but XML's strictness in parsing worked against it, and eventually folks just standardized how HTML parsers should interpret ill-formed HTML instead.
	▲	vitejose an hour ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		No, HTML was historically supposed to be a subset of SGML; XML is also an application of SGML. XHTML is the XML version of HTML. As of HTML5, HTML is no longer technically SGML or XML.
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graemep 26 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Also in finance. XBRL and FIXML although I do not know how widely used the latter is.

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fc417fc802 36 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's not the hot new thing but when has hype ever mattered for getting shit done? I don't think anyone who considers it obsolete has an informed opinion on the matter.

Typically a more primitive (sorry, minimal) format such as JSON is sufficient in which case there's no excuse to overcomplicate things. But sometimes JSON isn't sufficient and people start inventing half baked solutions such as JSON-LD for what is already a solved problem with a mature tech stack.

XSLT remains an elegant and underused solution. Guile even includes built in XML facilities named SXML.

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girvo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I kind of miss SOAP. Ahead of its time? Probably not, but I built some cool things on top of it

	▲	pfraze 38 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		atproto's lexicon-based rpc is pretty soap-like

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vlovich123 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

For me, even when it was first released, I considered obsolete enterprise shit. That view has not diminished as the sorry state of performance and security in that space has just reaffirmed that perception.

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cyanydeez 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

20 years old means 1980!

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eduction an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Obsolete enterprise shit I guess includes podcasting. Impressive for the enterprise.

I’d be very curious what lasting open formats JSON has been used to build.

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himata4113 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

didn't know html was spooky tech, TIL. /s