| ▲ | Nevermark 3 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> more stringent safeguards than previous agreements, including Anthropic's. Except they are not "more stringent". Sam Altman is being brazen to say that. In their own agreement as Altman relays: > The AI System will not be used to independently direct autonomous weapons in any case where law, regulation, or Department policy requires human control > any use of AI in autonomous and semi-autonomous systems must undergo rigorous verification, validation, and testing > For intelligence activities, any handling of private information will comply with the Fourth Amendment, the National Security Act of 1947 and the Foreign Intelligence and Surveillance Act of 1978, Executive Order 12333, and applicable DoD directives > The system shall also not be used for domestic law-enforcement activities except as permitted by the Posse Comitatus Act and other applicable law. I don't think their take is completely unreasonable, but it doesn't come close to Anthropic's stance. They are not putting their neck out to hold back any abuse - despite many of their employees requesting a joint stand with Anthropic. Their wording gives the DoD carte blanch to do anything it wants, as long as they adopt a rationale that they are obeying the law. That is already the status quo. And we know how that goes. In other words, no OpenAI restriction at all. That is not at all comparable to a requirement the DoD agree not to do certain things (with Anthropic's AI), regardless of legal "interpretation" fig leaves. Which makes Anthropic's position much "more stringent". And a rare and significant pushback against governmental AI abuse. (Altman has a reputation for being a Slippery Sam. We can each decide for ourselves if there is evidence of that here.) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | clhodapp 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Yep. It's the difference between "Don't do these things, regardless of what the law says." and "Do whatever you want, but please follow your own laws while you do it". As Paul Graham said, "Sam gets what he wants" and "He’s good at convincing people of things. He’s good at getting people to do what he wants." and "So if the only way Sam could succeed in life was by [something] succeeding, then [that thing] would succeed" | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | qmarchi 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Easy way to summarize it: "You're not allowed to do these things, except for all of the laws that allow you to do these things." | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | pear01 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Brings to mind the infamous line from Nixon: "When the president does it, that means it is not illegal". This was during the Frost/Nixon interviews, years after he had already resigned. Even after all that, he still believed this and was willing to say it into a camera to the American people. It is apparent many of the people pushing the excesses going on today in government share a shameless adherence to this creed. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | aardvarkr 41 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
This is the same government caught spying on its citizens by Snowden so I don’t trust them at all. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | spiderice 39 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
That seems exactly what it should be. The United States military should be able to do what the law allows. If we don't think they should be allowed to do something, we should pass laws. Not rely on the goodness of Sam Altman. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | stingraycharles 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
This implies that OpenAI must build and release and maintain a model without any safeguards, which is probably the big win and maybe something Anthropic never wants to do. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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