I think you could look into Minstral. There's also GPT-OSS but I'm not sure how well it stacks up.

What's your problem with Chinese LLMs?

Nothing personally - Our customers send us highly sensitive financial documents to process. Using a foreign model to process their data (or even just for local testing) will most likely result in a u-turn.

	▲	MarsIronPI 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		What if you run them locally, or use a US-based provider that hosts them? IMO the provenance of the weights doesn't matter. You're right that the location of the hoster does, though.

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icase 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

it’s not obvious to you why someone would want to avoid models created by our enemies?

	▲	shell0x 4 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		As an European, I trust China more than America. China doesn't just start bombing other countries and causes regime changes.
	▲	MarsIronPI 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		No, it's not. They're just collections of numbers that can be harnessed to produce outputs. I check the outputs and if they're good I use them. If they're not, I ignore them and there's no harm done. Obviously I don't trust them to be accurate sources of information, but I don't trust American corporate LLMs much more.
	▲	bigyabai an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		No, explain it to me. GPT-OSS is one of the most heavily-censored models on the internet, what's the point of buying local if it's crap?