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Obsidian Sync now has a headless client(help.obsidian.md)
121 points by adilmoujahid 2 hours ago | 43 comments
kepano 20 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Oh! I worked on this project. If anyone has questions, I'll do my best to answer them!

Mountain_Skies 14 minutes ago | parent [-]

No questions, just thanks for helping with a great product.

corysama an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Also new: Obsidian joins the CLI gang

https://help.obsidian.md/cli

I’ve been having a lot of fun recently using AI CLIs with Obsidian. No plugins necessary because it’s just a directory tree of markdown files.

jadbox 9 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

It's not super useful yet- you can't really view notes in the CLI but you can can trigger features like search.

manmal an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've been using iCloud to sync Obsidian, and have consistently run into the problem that iCloud file container access needs full disk permissions that I don't want to give the agent (or Ghostty). Does everybody use Obsidian's paid sync instead or what? Or SyncThing?

vergessenmir 12 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Just pay for the sync. I used to juggle with git, rsync, inotify etc and other tools

Its one of the few subscriptions where it actually feels like money well spent

poglet 3 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://github.com/vrtmrz/obsidian-livesync

typicalrunt an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I used to use SyncThing, then Dropbox, then iCloud. But then I just caved and paid for Obsidian Sync and it is the best money spent aside from Claude. I don't have to tinker with weird settings anymore or deal with sync issues, it just works.

FloatArtifact an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I can't wonder if that's by design to make it hard for a plugin to have it's own sync mechanism. Definitely not proof of this that I know of, but a thought.

wiether 11 minutes ago | parent [-]

Obsidian is plain Markdown and JSON files.

There can't be a will from the devs to make it hard to sync.

It's just that unlike git or Dropbox or whatever, that are just generic "syncing" tools, Obsidian Sync has been built to provide the best experience with Obsidian.

peterb an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Same

chrisweekly an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Obsidian's paid sync works great for me.

mihaelm an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I love that CLIs are getting a second wind.

droidjj an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I switched from obsidian to the zk CLI a few months ago and have no regrets (https://github.com/zk-org/zk). Highly recommend for people looking for something a little simpler. But this looks promising from obsidian!

eric-p7 12 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I wish I could use Obsidian to edit single markdown files.

If my project has a readme.md I don't want to create an obsidian vault with its configuration files in my project, just to open it.

kelvinjps10 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It would be good since I don't use obsidian on my desktop but I do on my phone, so that way I can use it for syncing and then open the documents on Neovim on my desktop

dispersed 42 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is great, but as convenient as Obsidian Sync is, it'll never replace plain Git (for me) until it has unlimited version history:

> The retention period for your version history depends on your Obsidian Sync plan. On the Standard plan, notes are retained for 1 month, while on the Plus plan, they are kept for 12 months. After this period, older versions of your notes are deleted.

jon-wood 40 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

You can use this to sync changes in (near) realtime and then either commit them to git, or use some other mechanism to increase retention.

qwertox 39 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

It also won't replace Postgres, because that is also a different thing.

dispersed 38 minutes ago | parent [-]

What do you mean? Version history is explicitly a feature of Obsidian Sync: https://help.obsidian.md/Obsidian+Sync/Version+history

qwertox 35 minutes ago | parent [-]

Yes, but just because it has version history doesn't mean it is closer to git than to Postgres. You can also do versioning in Postgres. You can even search more easily in the history.

happytoexplain 29 minutes ago | parent [-]

I assume they meant "it will never replace Git for syncing Obsidian".

madmod an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

For some reason obsidian sync consitently empties random recently opened notes for me. I think it might be some kind of race condition between icloud sync and obsidian sync. File gets touched before obsidian gets to it so the empty note is seen as a new file. That theory doesn't quite hold up though because the same thing happens to me using the android client. Has anyone here had this problem?

_neil 31 minutes ago | parent [-]

I had this happen a bunch when I was using iCloud sync on multiple devices. I think it was mostly solved by setting the directory to “keep downloaded” (right click on it in finder and it’s the second option).

That said, I’ve switched one vault to git and have had no issues there.

deniskim an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nice to see an official headless option. If anyone is looking to do headless syncing specifically to their own Synology NAS, I created an open-source alternative for that here: https://pypi.org/project/obsidian-synology-sync/

mtucker502 an hour ago | parent [-]

I know this is headless but is there any other reason I should use this over the official Synology drive app?

tigereyeTO 40 minutes ago | parent [-]

Synology Drive is a file and folder syncing system.

Obsidian is a note and wiki syncing system.

You should use an obsidian syncing system if you want to sync notes and wikis. You should use a file syncing system if you want to sync files.

fwn 3 minutes ago | parent [-]

This reply does not address parents question at all.

A key feature of Obsidian is that it stores your notes in an open folder on your file system.

A very valid question is whether there are benefits to using a special note sync application rather than a standard file system sync application, and if so, what those benefits are.

theptip 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why would you use this over plain git in a CI pipeline? Presumably you need your knowledge graph versioned?

TheDong an hour ago | parent | next [-]

iOS makes it painful to use third-party sync protocols and servers, like syncthing can't run in the background, a git sync service can't run in the background, only iCloud gets to run in the background.... and whatever sync protocol the app itself has blessed so it can run immediately on opening the app.

As such, on iOS the native sync is the only one that works cleanly and seamlessly, and so you're incentivized to pay for it.

There was a little while, when dropbox was big, where it seemed like the future of computing would be "your data is in the cloud, and every app you use can share that data, and those two things are independent integrated through some common filesystem layer".

And then it ended up that no, your data's in a cloud-per-service, where your emails live in googles cloud, your documents in microsoft 365's cloud, your images in "adobe creative cloud"'s cloud, your photos in Apple's cloud, your passwords in 1Password's cloud, and your knowledgebase in Obsidian's cloud.

The dream of the filesystem API being able to expand to clouds, of being able to choose dropbox or google or apple as the owner of your data, and other applications seamlessly integrating with any of them, it died with apple making it impossible to offer any sort of generic filesystem API or even background sync.

And so, that's why you'd use obsidian sync over git, because you're cursed with using a phone.

Unless you're saying "why not pay for obsidian sync, but then sync it into a git repo in CI and commit there to see the diffs", not "why not use git as the underlying sync protocol", in which case ignore everything I wrote, you totally could do that.

theptip 33 minutes ago | parent [-]

Gotcha, thanks. I just use git but don’t sync to my iPhone, this helps give context on the value prop there.

boomskats 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you have automation that dumps things int your vault, that you built with their new CLI (which lets you create/tag docs etc. without running the full electron app), I guess this lets you sync those changes and propagate them to all of your obsidian sync clients also without having to open aforementioned full electron app.

wiether an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

To enjoy the native ease of use and security of Obsidian Sync as a human user on your devices; while being able to automate things on a server.

jatari an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Does the knowledge graph have a function other than to show off how big your vault is?

kid64 19 minutes ago | parent [-]

Only in 2nd-brain mythology, which holds that you'll discover connections between your notes that you didn't realize was there. I think it started as eye candy to confuse prospective users considering Roam Notes. They later did something similar with their "Canvas" feature. So, these are features you get with their lack of coherent vision, rather than basic usability and a safe plugin ecosystem, neither of which Obsidian plans to deliver..

articsputnik 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Quoting[1] kepano (CEO of Obsidian) - Why you might use Obsidian Sync headless:

- Automate remote backups

- Automate publishing a website

- Give agentic tools access to a vault without access to your full computer

- Sync a shared team vault to a server that feeds other tools

- Run scheduled automations e.g. aggregate daily notes into weekly summaries, auto-tag, etc

...all while having the speed, privacy, customizability, end-to-end encryption of Obsidian Sync.

[1]: https://x.com/kepano/status/2027485552451432936

breakyerself 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I just use Dropbox with dropsync on my phone. I never use the knowledge graph anyway

TheGRS 15 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Interesting...I've been thinking for a while that doing instructions and logs through my obsidian notes would be really helpful and a great way to do more agentic work. I've paid for obsidian sync as a way to support their team for the last 3 years, but color me impressed that there are some more tangible benefits to it!

sciencesama 21 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

what does this mean ? can i self host stuff ?

adilmoujahid 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I love this as I can now sync the research I do using an OpenClaw running on an EC2 instance. My setup here: https://x.com/AdilMouja/status/2025266443613319546

desireco42 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is huge. I built SidianSidekicks and it is based on git because we don't want to lose your notes and thoughts, but convenience of Obsidan Sync are something that makes everything easy. I get this is in beta, and we will stick to git, but love what they are doing and looking forward to it.

Essentially Sync while you can emulate it on desktop, for mobile it is not good experience without Sync. And we want to have and record our thoughts with us all the time.

abnry an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Fantastic! Now I don't need to run it in a headless xorg session.

pdntspa an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Now make Dropbox sync work with iPhone