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ozgung 6 hours ago

Actually Google Gemini provides almost no control on the data you share. Same for Antigravity. No "opt-out" button, even as a lie. Even when you are a paying user. Only Google Workplace users have some control.

There is a setting in Gemini but it removes all your chat history. For Antigravity, I think there is nothing preventing them from use your code and data your agents upload in the background unless you are a workspace user.

Note: Canceled my ChatGPT subscription and deleted an account.

reilly3000 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

FYI I am a paying Workspace customer. I disabled Gemini retention. Doing so means no chat history sidebar- all are ephemeral. It was org-level. That became impractical. I re-enabled it. Magically, all of my old chats were back. The ones during no retention mode weren’t there. Perhaps if I’d left it off for more than 30 days the old stuff would have been truly removed.

The point is there is no conversation-level controls. It’s incredibly user-hostile.

ncr100 4 hours ago | parent [-]

This sounds like a news worthy observation, to me. That Google doesn't delete your data when you ask to.

seanp2k2 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I’d love to see a lawyer point out how this is no different legally from the NSA only “collecting” your data if a human actually views it and is therefore totally above board and adhering to the letter of the law.

https://www.aclu.org/news/national-security/new-documents-sh...

gooseyman 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's all or nothing for Gemini Pro.

I can't set a voice reminder on my Pixel without giving full access to my Google workspace (which includes all emails) which is explicitly allowed to be trained on per the terms. There is no per app toggle.

Voice reminders were the only thing assistants did well for years.

We are going backwards.

dsf2g 31 minutes ago | parent [-]

"We are going backwards."

Scaling up to get more nuance and subtle stuff makes the whole damn thing break. Im waiting for others to realise this.

jbkkd 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I like Gemini the model, but the app itself sucks. You can't even delete conversations if you're an enterprise workspace user.

de6u99er 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's not correct, at least not here inEurope.

You can disable saving your activity In this case you chat's win't be stored or used.

If you use Gemini through Google Workspace, all chat's won't leave the workspace environment and won't be used for LLM training (as of now).

de6u99er 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's not correct. If you didable activity your data won't be used. You eon't have daved chats and can inly have one.

WarmWash 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The API doesn't retain your data, but then you do need to pay fully for each token.