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throwawayheui57 3 hours ago

Iran’s FM’s statements on the negotiations contradict these claims. They said that they had productive talks and reasonable progress! Did they lie?

Matl 3 hours ago | parent [-]

'productive talks and reasonable progress' is what diplomats almost always say in negotiations in order to maintain a reasonable atmosphere for possible further negotiations, this is not rocket science.

They also said the US demands are completely unreasonable, which you conveniently left out.

throwawayheui57 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> They also said the US demands are completely unreasonable, which you conveniently left out.

Can you give me some official sources that explain what exactly was negotiated and demanded on both sides?

Matl an hour ago | parent [-]

TL;DR Iran wants essentially symbolic enrichment so they could save face domestically, the US wants it to limit the range of its missiles so they could not reach Israel when Israel attacks.

I want to avoid linking particular sources because I know it's easy to call this or that biased etc. but it's easy to look up even in Israeli sources.

throwawayheui57 26 minutes ago | parent [-]

But that’s not what you said:

> The US demands were for Iran to give up all its offensive capabilities

Matl 11 minutes ago | parent [-]

Iran shortening the range of its missiles to the point where they can no longer reach Israel is what Iran giving up all its offensive capabilities means given that the missile threat is the only meaningful response Iran can have to a preemptive Israeli attack.

What's your point?