AI is useful when paired with an experienced programmer.

Experienced through old-school (pre-LLM) practice.

I don't clearly see a good endgame for this.

citrin_ru an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Endgame is to produce AI which will not need any supervision by the time the current generation of experienced developers will retire or even sooner. I don’t know if it will happen but many bet on this and models are still improving, flattening is not yet seen.

	▲	ajshahH 8 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		This implies programming is done and there will be no other advancements. And flattening is being seen, no? Recent advancements are mostly from RL’ing, which has limitations (and tradeoffs) too. Are there more tricks after that?

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duggan 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Motivated novices will just learn differently, and produce different kinds of systems for different audiences with different expectations.

Some will dig into obscurities that LLMs don't or can't touch, others will orchestrate the tools, Gastown-style, into some as-yet-unknown form.

People will vibe themselves into a corner and either start learning or flame out.