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jameshilliard 4 hours ago

> it was never about nuclear weapons

The only reason to enrich uranium to 60% like Iran was doing is for nuclear weapons purposes.

tsimionescu 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That's not the point. The point is that the attacks on Iran are not about the nuclear weapons. Iran entered the JCPOA and complied with it, it had completely suspended any nuclear weapons program. But that didn't matter for Israel and their sycophants in US foreign policy, because for them the nuclear weapons program is at best only one part of the problem. Their real problem is that Iran is an independent state in the region that refuses to accept Israel's occupation of Gaza, the West Bank, and parts of Lebanon, and that refuses to comply with US policies more broadly.

Overall the goal is not to stop Iran's nuclear program, though that is part of it. The goal would be to install a government in Iran that is friendly to Israel and the USA, or, failing that, to completely destroy their economy and defense such that they effectively can't act outside their own borders.

tome 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Israel's occupation of ... parts of Lebanon

Which parts of Lebanon does Israel occupy?

Qem 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/11/14/un-peacekeepers-sa...

tome 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> The wall extends across the so-called Blue Line and has made “more than 4,000 square metres [43,055sq feet] of Lebanese territory inaccessible to the Lebanese people”

So you're saying Israel's occupation of Lebanon amounts to 4,000 square metres? About the area of an athletics track, I guess? (Not counting the bit inside the athletics track.)

Y-bar an hour ago | parent [-]

How much land area, exactly, is another nation allowed to seize by force before it becomes unacceptable to you? It obviously is not that much given the tone of your message.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Lebanese_confl...

tome an hour ago | parent [-]

That's not the question I'm interested in. The question I'm interested in is whether it's correct to claim that Israel occupies "parts of Lebanon", particularly in the context in which the claim was made, next to the claim that it occupies Gaza and the West Bank.

Y-bar an hour ago | parent [-]

I could have sworn that I saw a goalpost here. Why is it over there now?

orwin 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The south. It's not a real occupation like the west bank, it's more of a 'raid and pillage' thing. No rape reported yet, so it isn't at all like the West Bank.

catlikesshrimp 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Israel only has outposts in Lebanese territory.

In Syria, Israel had a buffer zone since 1974. Last year they said the agreement had "collapsed" and went on to occupy even more territoru: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/26/israel-carries-out-...

Palestine is occupied.

swingboy 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This. Everything going on is one step closer to Israeli dominance of the region and “Greater Israel”.

Matl 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No, the reason is to have a deterrence so that Iran could say, 'hey, if you attack us we'll develop nukes'.

By the way, I am a lot more worried about Israel and its actual nuclear stockpile that has zero oversight.

gryzzly 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Its good u have no say in whatever important.

halflife 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And burying your facilities under a mountain is not suspect at all

pydry 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Not especially. Their other facilities were being bombed routinely by Israel (along with infrastructure).

halflife 2 hours ago | parent [-]

So they have medical grade uranium facility under a mountain? If that’s all they need, wouldn’t it be easier to just purchase it from a third party instead of investing billions of dollars hiding from Israel?

metalman 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

there are many reasons to do nuclear research beyond medicine, for batteries like the ones powering the voyager space craft, nuclear reactors come in a wide variety of configurations, and many of them actualy produce more radioactive elements that then need to be managed. 60% is nothing,80% is nothing, it needs to be 93%++, and LOTS of it to build a bomb, and given the number of bombs already arrayed around Iran, they would need 100's and all the infrastructure to become a credible threat , for which they plainly dont have the money to afford. The wildly unpopular leaders going after Iran need a scapegoat, or rather a continious supply of scapegoats, but have failed to recognise that the world is moving past them.

pseingatl 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

True. Medical needs require only a lower percentage. I don't know if Iran was planning any fission reactors.