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bawolff 5 hours ago

Its probably not the reason they are attacking (except in as much that it makes the iranian regime vulnerable). However i would say that yes, humanitarian intervention is one of the only non self-defense justifications for war that anyone has ever accepted in the post-ww2 era. (Edit: to clarify, im saying its the type of thing people build justifications for war around. Whether its a valid justification on this specific case is probably highly debatable. I think a reasonable argument could be made)

sekai 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> However i would say that yes, humanitarian intervention is one of the only non self-defense justifications for war that anyone has ever accepted in the post-ww2 era

So when is the US intervening in Ukraine then? Russia is literally doing human safari with drones hunting down civilians in Kherson.

bawolff 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> So when is the US intervening in Ukraine then?

Did you miss the absolute massive amounts of aid US has given ukraine?

Regardless, there is a difference between how war is justified and why wars actually take place.

AlecSchueler 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

But this will undoubtedly increase the general level of adversarial feelings and justifications of violence worldwide for many decades to come. The seeds of the next ISIS were planted today

close04 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Can the US or Israel morally claim “humanitarian” intervention given what’s happening in parallel in Gaza? If Iran bombed Tel Aviv would you call it a humanitarian intervention? Is this a creative use of the term? When you make a “humanitarian” intervention to save some humans, while decimating others it sounds like you think the “others” are not/sub-humans.

bawolff 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Tu quoque

rando1234 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

So I suppose you'll be attacking Saudi Arabia after this if you're so worried about humanitarian conditions?

RiverStone 3 hours ago | parent [-]

You have to pick your battles and be pragmatic. Changing the Iranian regime would have a much broader impact than changing the Saudi Arabian one.

rando1234 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Bombs for peace.