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ardit33 5 hours ago

This was doesn't benefit the US whatsoever. I am getting tired of our taxes going to another useless war, like the Iraq one, that only benefits a foreign entity, aka Israel.

Iran could have been contained and Obama was right on his approach. We don't know the details of the strikes, but I hope it doesn't go into a full blown war, but this will be another Iraq like disaster, and american people are getting tired of doing the bidding of Isreal, a country that is already mirred into doing a genocide. This war is already unpopular in pools. Iran's regime is terrible to its people, but this has the potential to be another disaster where countless of people could die.

gghhzzgghhzz 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

indeed. One of the only positive things Obama did internationally.

The regime may be horrific, but the only route out was through supporting and encoraging change and opening up and progressive forces.

It's a country with 90 million people, and many groups and external influences. Could end up like Iraq.

and it's Europe that will experince the political chaos as result of pressure from refugees, not the US.

ExoticPearTree 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If they don’t put boots on the ground, it won’t. They can bomb Iran back to the stoneage, as it has no viable air defenses.

padjo 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It won't go to a full blown war. They will bomb some stuff and declare victory. Once they sailed two carrier battle groups over there an attack of some sort was a foregone conclusion.

CapricornNoble 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>We don't know the details of the strikes, but I hope it doesn't go into a full blown war

Well, if the Chinese are smart, they will capitalize on this opportunity. They can prop up the Iranian regime with intelligence, weapons, and financial support the same way US & EU prop up Ukraine. The purpose would be to bleed US munitions stocks even faster than they already are, as well as increase attritional losses in platforms and personnel. China's stranglehold on rare earths and their export restrictions are making it more difficult for the US to restore its weapons stockpile. I'm sure China can crunch some numbers to identify the point of maximum weakness if the US is forced to sustain an anti-Iran air and naval campaign 30/60/90+ days. Then Xi can try to overlap that window of weakness with one of the two invasion windows against Taiwan (mostly due to weather in the Taiwan Strait). I don't think the PLA is dumb enough to try a full amphibious assault, but they could definitely initiate their blockade then.

cgio 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don’t believe China has any intention to support anyone by military means. Best case they will keep on trading and that’s it. Iran is alone. Maybe Turkey makes a crazy move to support seeing it sees itself as next in line if Iran falls. This is the biggest present to European powers, which I think will be hoping that it will keep US busy for rest of Trump’s presidency. They have the Ukraine excuse to distance themselves and let everyone get weaker while they arm themselves up. Internal political tensions in US will also give them leeway to more actively influence American politics and these will be even worse with a long war pitched against a scandal background. Then again, Trump may be a genius, get this done in a couple of months and leave everyone grasping for a new strategy.

lucketone 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It would take weeks for China to shop stuff. (Unless they have done their homework in advance)

CapricornNoble 5 hours ago | parent [-]

There's been rumors of Chinese kit arriving in Iran, but nothing concrete:

https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2026/02/10/how-iran-gained-the-ab...

If China didn't anticipate the US attacking Iran after Maduro was deposed and the resulting impacts on their oil supplies, then they are asleep at the wheel.

HappyPanacea 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Iran could have been contained and Obama was right on his approach.

So you don't care about people forced to live under IRGC rule and their desire to export their Islamic ideals elsewhere?

hackpelican 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Do you really believe this “altruistic” angle?

HappyPanacea 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, I don't want to live under Islamic rule.

dragonwriter 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I might be convinced that the Administration was concerned about people being forced to live under Islamic rule if it was as eager for war with Saudi Arabia as it is with Iran.

(I wouldn't support it any more in that case, but I would be more inclined to believe that its motivation might actually have anything to do with "Islamic rule".)

colordrops 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Where do you live where Islamic rule is a worry?

za3faran 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Many people want to though, and no one is forcing you to.

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colordrops 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No. There are dozens of countries with despotic regimes, including Israel. And I also have no interest in zionist or any religious ideals exported either. If this were justification we would also be bombing Israel, which has committed far worse crimes than Iran.