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phplovesong 5 hours ago

Rust has nothing new (even the lifetime stuff is copied) really. It just marketed itself really well. It got a huge number of migrants from JS/TS ecosystem, and python, and some from the C(+*) ecosystems.

Its a good language dont get me wrong, but also a huge pita to work with.

zozbot234 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Rust has nothing new (even the lifetime stuff is copied) really.

Rust has nothing new by academic standards, and this is an explicit goal of the project. (And that's why it has yet to support e.g. Haskell-like higher-kinded types; or dependent types for compile-time programming: the interaction with its low-level featureset is very much an open question.) It's incredibly novel as a production language, of course.

dcminter an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> [Rust is] a good language [...] but also a huge pita to work with

This is practically the elevator pitch of the language :) and I speak as one who likes it a lot!

pjerem 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It has nothing new but they did a good job at cherry picking what what nice in other languages.

Which makes it an interesting language to learn actually. I even feel like Rust can even be a superb first language to learn for a new programmer : that’s a journey for sure but it would expose you to most of the modern programming concepts.

AlotOfReading 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Saying it has nothing new seems like an uncharitable take. Yes, it has influences (that rust docs dedicate a page to [0]), but PL theory has such a rich body of literature that you can make a similar claim about virtually any language. It's the whole package that matters, and I don't think there's anything "rust but earlier" to point to there. Certainly isn't Ada.

[0] https://doc.rust-lang.org/reference/influences.html