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tedsanders 6 hours ago

I agree it makes little sense, and I think if all players were rational it never would have played out this way. My understanding is that there are other reasons (i.e., beyond differing red lines) that made the OpenAI deal more palatable, but unfortunately the information shared with me has not been made public so I won't comment on specifics. I know that's unsatisfying, but I hope it serves as some very mild evidence that it's not all a big fat lie.

az226 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Your ballooned unvested equity package is preventing you from seeing the difference between “our offering/deal is better” and “designated supply chain risk and threatening all companies who do business with the government to stop using Anthropic or will be similarly dropped” (which is well past what the designation limits). It’s easier being honest.

tedsanders 3 hours ago | parent [-]

The supply chain risk stuff is bogus. Anthropic is a great, trustworthy company, and no enemy of America. I genuinely root for Anthropic, because its success benefits consumers and all the charities that Anthropic employees have pledged equity toward.

Whether Anthropic’s clear mistreatment means that all other companies should refrain from doing business with the US government isn’t as clear to me. I can see arguments on both sides and I acknowledge it’s probably impossible to eliminate all possible bias within myself.

One thing I hope we can agree on is that it would be good if the contract (or its relevant portions) is made public so that people can judge for themselves, without having to speculate about who’s being honest and who’s lying.

slg 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>Whether Anthropic’s clear mistreatment means that all other companies should refrain from doing business with the US government isn’t as clear to me.

That isn't what many of us are challenging here. We're not concerned about OpenAI's ethics because they agreed to work with the government after Anthropic was mistreated.

We're skeptical because it seems unlikely that those restrictions were such a third rail for the government that Anthropic got sanctioned for asking for them, but then the government immediately turned around and voluntarily gave those same restrictions to OpenAI. It's just tough to believe the government would concede so much ground on this deal so quickly. It's easier to believe that one company was willing to agree to a deal that the other company wasn't.

throw0101c 42 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> It's just tough to believe the government would concede so much ground on this deal so quickly.

Well… TACO.

lsaferite an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Not "asking for them", insisting the already agreed to terms be respected.

intothemild 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

We all know who's lying... The guy who's track record is constantly lying.. your boss.

tibbydudeza an hour ago | parent [-]

Ouch but true - he is the Elon of AI.

edoceo 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Friend, this reads like that situation where your paycheck prevents you from seeing clearly - I forget the exact quote. Sam doesn't play a straight game and neither does the administration - there are more than a few examples.

komali2 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Never try to convince someone of something they're paid to not believe.

davidmr 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Upton Sinclair: “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it”

DavidSJ 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

OpenAI should not be agreeing to any contract with DOD under these circumstances of Anthropic being falsely labeled a supply chain risk.