I'm of the opinion that anthropic's "moral" stances are bullshit, not particularly coherent when you dig deep and more about branding. If so, this is grade A marketing.

They want to present themselves as moral. What better endorsement than by being rejected by the US military under Trump? You get the people who hate trump and the people who hate the military in one swoop.

At the same time its kind of a non story. Anrhropic says it doesn't want its products used in certain ways, US military says fine, you can't be part of the project where we are going to make the AI do those things. Isn't that a win for both sides ? What's the problem?

It would be like someone part of a boycott movement being surprised the company they are boycotting doesn't want to hire them.

▲

solenoid0937 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> What's the problem?

Think. The problem is that being branded a "supply chain risk" prohibits vast chunks of the US corporate landscape from doing business with Anthropic.

The problem is that the government is attempting to destroy a company rather than simply terminate their contract.

	▲	bawolff an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Isn't it a literal supply chain risk, though? They want their products to not be used for some purposes. That's fine, that is their right. But that doesn't just stop at direct purchases. If the US buys from a defense contractor who bought from abthropic, that really isn't that different from buying direct. The moral hazard is still there and the risk that anthropic will try to prevent their product from being used in that fashion is still there. I think anthropic wants their cake and to eat it too. You can't take a principled stand against something and then be shocked the thing you are taking a principled stand against might think you are a risk.

▲

blcknight 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Everyone close to Anthropic leadership has claimed they’re the real deal and it’s not a stunt. I don’t think it’s bull. They are trying to find a reasonable middle ground and settled on some red lines they won’t cross.

	▲	slopinthebag 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		You believe the "reasonable middle ground" is using their models to kill people and spy on citizens?

▲

anonymous_user9 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> What's the problem?

Instead of just canceling the contract, the DoD is trying to destroy Anthropic to make it comply with their whims.

IMO this will probably be quickly defeated in court.

If it isn't, comrade Hegseth will have done an impressive job of weakening the American empire. You simply can't do business with an entity that would try to destroy you over dumb bullshit like this.

▲

zmmmmm 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

that doesn't even remotely represent what is happening here.