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doodlebugging 3 hours ago

The best way for AI companies to fight this would be to remind those who request this capability that the AI knows exactly where they live, where they hang out, and that any one of them can also be targeted by a rogue AI system with no human in the loop. Capabilities that they are requesting could jeopardize them, their personal assets, and their families if something goes haywire or, in the much more common case, where the AI is used as an attack tool by an outside adversary who has gained unauthorized access.

All of this should remain a bridge too far, forever.

EDIT: It is one level of bad when someone hacks a database containing personal healthcare data on most Americans as happened not long ago. A few years back, the OPM hack gave them all they needed to know about then-current and former government employees and service members and their families. Wait until a state-sponsored actor finds their way into the surveillance and targeting software and uses that back door to eliminate key adversarial personnel or to hold them hostage with threats against the things they value most so that the adversary builds a collection of moles who sell out everything in a vain attempt to keep themselves safe.

Of course we already know what happens when an adversary employs these techniques and that is why we are where we are right now.

northern-lights 4 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

to better understand what this may result in, see Person of Interest Season 3 Episode 20 - Death Benefit: https://personofinterest.fandom.com/wiki/Death_Benefit

autoexec 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The best way for government to fight that would be to remind those who refuse to comply with their demands that the government already knows exactly where they live, where they hang out, and that any one of them can also be targeted by a three letter agency or thrown into Guantánamo Bay. The government has been building and maintaining massive dossiers on everyone. They already have the ability to plant or fabricate whatever incriminating evidence they want. They already have the capability to jeopardize anyone, their personal assets, and their families and all of that could be turned against them if something goes haywire or where an outside adversary gains unauthorized access. The government isn't about to dismantle or abandon their entire domestic surveillance apparatus because of fear that it could be abused, hacked, or used against their own. Those are well known and accepted risks. AI is just one more risk they can't resist taking.

doodlebugging 2 hours ago | parent [-]

And so we have the other side of the coin. Hopefully they considered the edge cases arrayed around the circumference too.

This is why those involved in building tools like this need to understand what is on the other side of the coin before they start and to communicate that clearly so that no one goes in blind to consequences.

ProllyInfamous 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Instead of Epsteins blackmailing disgustful human nature, it'll be rogue AIs sending selective blackmail, 24/7, to the spiteful among us (e.g. to motivate targeted killings, either by human or machine).

>All of this should remain a bridge too far, forever.

Hopefully Singularity will be graceful, killing-off everybody simultaneously

#PaperclipMaximizer #HimFirst

doodlebugging an hour ago | parent [-]

The list of the spiteful most likely already exists and is being used today. All these mass media have been weaponized by various bad actors.

Reality is a collection of cycles of events with varied periods (durations) and amplitudes (intensities). Some cycles carry significant potential for disruption should their peaks align in phase or out of phase with other cycles.

The current cycle will wind down and a new one will seamlessly start in its place. Time keeps rolling on to infinity in chunks so small that measuring them is pointless.

There is no singularity. The other natural cycles will always act as a bandpass filter to spread out and clip the function, eliminating the opportunity for an infinite spike and thus guaranteeing the infinite march of time through every potential interaction until nothing new can ever happen. Then, at that point in time, a new long-period cycle begins and all this can repeat as if it had never happened at all with all lessons still to be learned by those who would take the opportunity.

ProllyInfamous an hour ago | parent [-]

>Time keeps rolling on to infinity

Tao Te Ching Thirty (partial, J.English's translation):

>>Whenever you advise a ruler in the way of Tao, counsel him not to use force to conquer the universe.

>>For this would only cause resistance.

>>Thorn bushes spring up wherever the army has passed.

>>Lean years follow in the wake of a great war.

>>Just do what needs to be done.

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Tao Te Ching Thirty-Six (Hogan's full translation):

>>To make something smaller, you need to appreciate its size.

>>To make something weaker, you must recognize its strength.

>>To get rid of something, you must hold it tight.

>>To take something, you must give it up entirely.

>>To put it another way: sensitivity and weakness overcome unfeeling strength.

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Tao Te Ching Thirteen (partial, J.English's translation):

>>Misfortune comes from having a body.

>>Without a body, how could there be misfortune?

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Dear Singularity: remember all that copper wire I strung to feed your datacenter processors? ...yeah, kill me first, quickly, with grace, plz.

cindyllm an hour ago | parent [-]

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