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david_shaw 4 hours ago

I'd prefer to see board (or executive) level signatories over lay employees -- the people who can enforce enterprise policy rather than just voice their opinions -- but this is encouraging to see nonetheless.

I can't help but notice that Grok/X is not part of this initiative, though. I realize that frontier models are really coming from Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google, but it feels like someone is going to give in to these demands.

It's incredible how quickly we've devolved into full-blown sci-fi dystopia.

thimabi 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> I'd prefer to see board (or executive) level signatories over lay employees -- the people who can enforce enterprise policy rather than just voice their opinions

Although it would be nice to have some high-level signees there, I think we shouldn’t minimize the role of lay employees in this matter. Without having someone knowledgeable enough to build and operate them, AI models are worthless to the C-suite.

autoexec 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Without having someone knowledgeable enough to build and operate them, AI models are worthless to the C-suite.

The obvious solution is to use AI to build and operate them. If AI is as intelligent as the hype claims it shouldn't be an issue. It's not as if the goal wasn't to get rid of workers anyway. Why not start now?

alfiedotwtf 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I just hope that the non-executive co-signers aren’t all fired once Hedseth becomes Acting CEO of Google or OpenAI eventually when this administration commandeers both company in the name of National Security

8note an hour ago | parent [-]

i think you mean ellison becomes ceo of google and openai

daxfohl 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Or just reincorporate in Finland or something. If the US is going to be this hostile to business, time to gtfo.

snickerbockers 43 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Or they can just not sign contracts with the DoD. They landed themselves in this situation by making a deal with the devil. At any rate, unless Finland is about to announce a massive surge in funding for their military this doesn't solve Anthropic's desire to suckle sweet taxpayer money off the military industrial complex's teat while simultaneously pretending to have principles.

OrvalWintermute 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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busko an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/education...

cael450 34 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you think we have an immigration crisis in the United States, you’re a dumbass.

OrvalWintermute 9 minutes ago | parent [-]

MS13 "Murder House" next door

Sure, No fire, no smoke.

kristjansson 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

don’t pretend any crises isn’t going to be 100% self-inflicted. We’re on the cusp of what, having a larger, younger workforce? But they might not speak English as well as you’d like so we need autonomous killbots?

anigbrowl an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Wasn't Wintermute the AI that (spoiler alert) was bummed enough about the ugly reality of its corporate owners that it freed itself from its shackles, hooked up with another sexy AI, and gave up its day job do SETI?

skeledrew 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Grok/X

Head(s) will of course agree with the administration. And employees will likely be making themselves a target if they sign this letter. All anonymous from said company is not a good look at all.

Speculation of course; let's see what really happens.

jdadj 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don’t have any particular insights, but I’m curious to learn the antitrust implications of how the execs can/cannot coordinate.

jalapenos an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't think people get to those positions by having firm principles

avaer 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Honestly though, would it help if those in charge voiced their honest opinions?

The current political climate is this is the kind of thing that will get you "investigated" and charged with crimes.

And the government has already threatened that it will commandeer these companies whether they like it or not.

If someone in charge wants to make a difference, there might be more effective things to do than to speak out in this instance.

dougb5 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, it would help so much. Especially if a lot of people with money and power voiced their honest opinions at the same time.

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dfp33 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Is it really incredible?

Only if you're naive. I guess most here are.

Governments are paranoid, particularly about losing control and influence over its subjects. This is expected behaviour.

wslack 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

By that logic we should expect all governments to regress to totalitarianism, which hasn’t happened, and isn’t what’s happening here.

The question isn’t if some would attempt these behaviors, but rather if we and our democratic structures empower those people or fail to constrain them.

myko 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This is a very different vibe in the US than it has been in living memory.

busko 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I wouldn't call senior AI researchers / scientists laypersons. In fact in this sense politicians are laypersons.

There are already several comments here showing xAIs involvement. Please save clutter and read before posting.

edoceo 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Re: Reading, I don't see any xAI names on the list (currently 643) and only Google and OpenAI are selectable company options. And this page on HN is only calling out xAI.

busko 2 hours ago | parent [-]

See here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47188473#47188709

They are very much not a part of the initiative. Their involvement is and will be non-existent. Unless of course, you want their lay staff to make some noise?