11 people died during the construction of the Golden Gate Bridge. We have onerous safety requirements and red tape which is why everything is so slow. Very few people die on construction sites now. Do we want 11 dead people or do we want things done extremely slow? I guess as a society we have answered that question.

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thereisnospork 4 hours ago | parent [-]

We've probably answered wrongly. Even money aside, how many more people die in traffic accidents due to the extra miles driven because of delays in construction?

Some regs are worth it, certainly, but being overly cautious is in itself unsafe.

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XorNot 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Sure and sometimes you just need to actually issue safety equipment and install a fall net.

The historical comparisons are complete BS: they wind up at "if we sacrifice enough people to the industrial god he will reward us" rather then discussing anything real.

	▲	dyauspitr 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		What is it then? What is real? It has to be environmental and safety regulations, long running environmental studies, general bureaucracy and NIMBYism holding construction and infrastructure back right? That’s what held up the high speed rail in California (along with funding factors). We’ve always had unions so that shouldn’t be it.
	▲	thereisnospork 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Things are so bad that we can't even seem to manage to install a fall net[0] in a timely manner. [0]https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-12-12/golden-g...