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Dear Time Lords: Freeze Computers in 1993(graydon2.dreamwidth.org)
77 points by zdw 4 hours ago | 36 comments
Brajeshwar an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I was in school, and I remember my 1993. Our school was one of the few schools in my hometown (north-east India) that got computers.

Unfortunately, we had too many students for each computer during classes. I started a revolt that “Computers are wasting our study time, as our upcoming board exams are more important.” The whole class signed the petition and the School Head had to schedule a class-wide talk and agreed to make it totally optional to the point of, “If you really want, you be part of it. But yes, study for the exam is more important.”

So, the computer classes ended up with just me (the traitor), a friend from Kerala, and the school head’s daughter. We ended up like 3 computers each to our disposal. I wrote a QBasic Game-ish program to impress my first girlfriend — she uses the arrow keys to launch dots to hit some area on a heart-shaped thingy on the screen and it prints her name. I remember using physical graph-paper to calculate the screen “pixels” (I think) or co-ordinates to calculate strike areas.

Oh and Yes, almost all of my classmates remember me for being that traitor.

https://brajeshwar.com/2025/fixing-a-dos-computer-for-the-ar...

jamiek88 an hour ago | parent [-]

I remember using graph paper as a kid in England to design my space invaders clone for the class bbc micro.

I loved your story, ingenuity and the cheekiness of youth!

josephg 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've been half joking lately that if I wrote an OS, I'd call it Nostalgia OS. I'd aim for a UI reminiscent of windows 98 / windows 2000 / snow leopard. With HID guidelines and a rich, clear, cohesive set of UI widgets to build applications with. I think that was the peak computing user interface - at least as I experienced it.

Of course, the kernel would be based on capabilities (probably SeL4). And applications would probably ship as WASM bundles. And I'd have a built in local first user database built around CRDTs and things instead of a file system, kinda like a modern Lotus Notes. But for the UI? That era was great.

HerbManic 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is sort of what SerenityOS was going for. Alas it has slowed down a bit since Andreas now handles the Ladybird browser.

To be fair Ladybird is probably needed more urgently now.

incanus77 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Check out the Chicago95 theme for XFCE.

jayde2767 24 minutes ago | parent [-]

PTSD and my pining for OS/2 spikes once again...OMG...

vunderba 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Pre-wikipedia days means you would likely have found me hunched over a 14" VGA monitor reading articles about giant devil rays and mansa musa in Microsoft Encarta as a kid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encarta

mrwh 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't think I was ever happier as a programmer than I was in the early 90s, well before university, with no thought of the internet, writing games on my Amiga.

Incidentally, I recently replayed Loom, from a bit before that era. It's still a lovely, wonderful game! Such a shame the fan-made sequel (Forge) seems to have died.

aidenn0 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Loom is the best looking EGA game ever made. Sadly the VGA remake was hit-and-miss with the visuals.

simonjgreen 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Impossible to think about Loom without thinking about the first room in Money Island and the guy with the badge

mrwh an hour ago | parent [-]

"Talk to me about Loom!" That was my introduction to it.

I believe it was reasonably popular back in the day, made money at least. Now it would be almost avant guarde in its slowness I guess. You can't even double click to run. The popular art of yesteryear becomes the high art of today...

weinzierl an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

OP has a good point, but for me, I'd rather wish we'd skipped the 90s and picked up again much later. I like to think of the 8-bit era as an early bronze age of computing, lots of things went right and were done right.

16-bit, to me, are the dark ages. Lot's of confusion, not much good came out of it technologically and aesthetically. God, everything was ugly. Maybe all the trials and tribulations were necessary for what was about to come but I like believe they weren't.

32-bit to me is the golden age and 64-bit is platinum.

If you offered my a time machine to go back, I'd surely say: "No, thank you!". There hasn't been a better time than now, but if you'd forced me at gun point, I'd pick the 80s over the 90s any time.

saulpw 34 minutes ago | parent [-]

I agree that 32-bit is the golden age, but 64-bit is enterprise bloat. I personally would go for 1995 vs 2005, but I think 2005 was a lot better than 2015 in terms of interfaces.

grumblepeet 29 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Two years before I moved across into IT. This was when I was a graphic designer making magazines and nursing journals using tools like Aldus PageMaker and QuarkXpress. Those were fantastic times. It felt like we could do anything with computers.

I was eyeing a career in IT and moved across soon after, and was dumped into Novell Netware 3.12 land which was an eye opener (Fire Phasers anyone?).

simonjgreen 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The trouble I have with this proposal, is Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight and Goldeneye weren’t released until 1997. So that’s a pass from me :)

jdougan 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Every so often I fire up an old Squeak Smalltalk image, put it in full screen mode, and pretend that much of the intervening years never happened.

xkriva11 2 hours ago | parent [-]

But Squeak is 1996 ;)

jdougan 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Close enough. I had a copy of MacOS Apple Smalltalk from the 1985 training course I took, and had started a job using Objectworks. Squeak 1.0 is quite close to ST-80.

medi8r 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

1993. No phone. No expectation of being contactable. If you are out you are out.

No SSDs though :(

weinzierl 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Well, people showed up randomly at your door completely unannounced. And for the expectation of being available: At least where I grew up mobility was much lower, transportation difficult. You bet there was an expectation of availability. Was it better or worse? I could not say, it was surely different.

karteum 41 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Actually the GSM spec existed in 1993 :)

HerbManic 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah...it was pretty good except that last part...

zdc1 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Well the games of my childhood, Total Annihilation and Seven Kingdoms, came out in '97. So for my own selfish reasons I would argue that the Pentium II is where progress should have stopped.

On the other hand, at least I'll get to play Castle of the Winds.

(I also loved Z: Steel Soldiers, but despite the '01 release date, I'm sure it too would have run on a Pentium II).

klodolph 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

2009, please, sorry. 1993 is fun and all, I can go relive the dreams of Microsoft Encarta, but 2009 has Mac OS 10.6, gigabit ethernet everywhere, and USB.

kristianp an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I was doing Modula 2 coding of assignments around then on 1 bit xterms. [1] I don't think we had that new fangled Modula 3.

[1] possibly NCD-16, https://groups.google.com/g/comp.windows.x/c/yGBvXhuTL0Y

valorzard an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Time lords can’t do anything, they’re all dead (twice now, thanks RTD)

Maybe the doctor could take you back there with a TARDIS, but time paradoxes and fixed points in time and all that

jmyeet 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm old enough to remember the 1990s. Many of us who do consider it the last good decade. Living was cheap. The previously ever-present threat of nuclear annihilation had seemingly abated. This was before the d0t-com crash and obviously the War on Terror that has dominated the 21st century thus far.

I have fond memories of the 486 era, which was really the early 1990s. I'm kinda surprised the PC component of this isn't mentioned here. it was also peak Borland.

It does mention Windows NT but honestly nobody really cared about that until NT 3.0/3.5 and it soon thereafter became Windows XP and laid the foundation for modern Windows.

1993 IIRC had pre-1.0 Linux. I downloaded a distribution (SLS) onto ~30 5.25" floppy drives about that time.

But I really wonder if it was that the tech was sufficiently good at that time or it's simply the tech we had when life was sufficiently good. 1993 was before the dot-com bubble started. That's true. And I guess with more computing power came a lot of the things that many people dislike now. Ads, news feeds, social media, micro-transactions, etc.

But we also have Youtube, video streaming, digital maps and navigation, search engines and a host of other things that are genuinely good.

This stuff was also fantastically expensive (in inflation-adjusted dollars). We shouldn't forget that too.

qsera an hour ago | parent | next [-]

>Youtube

For me, youtube is only nice because of the decades old content that people have put on it. But that is because there is no such quality content made in the world anymore, and that is partially because of the enshittification bought on by the internet.

If it was not the case, youtube won't be that big of a deal. Let me disclose here that I am not a big fan of "on-demand" content.

Megranium 8 minutes ago | parent [-]

I'm always amazed how Youtube can be so many different things for different people ... It's true that it used to be better a few years back, but people still upload great content even it it's harder to find nowadays.

Also, music ... back in the 90ies, if you were drawn to the obscure side of music, you'd read about it, and could, at best, imagine what it was like, because your local record store didn't have it, the bigger store the next town over didn't have it, and IF anyone could order it was with a non-refundable down payment.

Nowadays, you can probably find it on YT, and that's great IMHO. I my musical horizon would be so much more limited without it.

Also I've learned a lot about guitar repair ...

qsera 3 minutes ago | parent [-]

Yea..

I have stayed up all night waiting for RHCP's "Otherside" to come on MTv to record it on tape..

Will kids today even understand something like that, is anyone captured by music like that these days?

fxtentacle 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

1993 was before the west entered the last stage of capitalism. It was a time when companies still competed on products rather than using monopolistic force to squeeze ever more revenue out of the same people by turning every life necessity into a subscription. Similarly, it was a time when you could mail-order a house and build it yourself. Rental prices were low because there was no regulatory capture on housing construction yet.

Where I disagree with you is video streaming. In my opinion, YouTube and the commercialisation of holiday memories (which later became Instagram influencers) were the beginning of widespread depression. Seemingly regular people sharing their exceptional life somehow forces everyone else to compare themselves to the dreams presented on YouTube and most people will come up short and then most people will feel insufficient. I believe that’s why early YouTube ads were so powerful. Your ad for exotic goods would play immediately after the viewer became painfully aware of how boring they are, when measured against the top 0.1% on a global scale.

gizajob 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I never understand why people want to label such eras of capitalism as “late” or the last era of capitalism. The late stage was late only to its own death. This isn’t the last stage either. Plenty more to grow. Capitalism is more akin to an indestructible and rapidly mutating organism than an ideology.

mbrezu 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Man, we're old...

Zobat an hour ago | parent [-]

Yep, old men yelling at "the cloud"!

altairprime an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've been decompiling SH-2A code for the past half-decade and, you know, it's fine. It's not Great. But, like, it's fine!

sh3rl0ck 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

In Gallifrey? In Gallifrey.