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Fischgericht 3 hours ago

Then it won't work. The current iteration of Germany is fully based on having been bombed to get a fresh start. If you already have something, you won't change it. If you have to re-build, you will implement improvements. No bombs, no reset, no joy.

davidw 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I am less confident about my predictions for an uncertain future. There's all kinds of ways different things could go.

I didn't say we needed to follow their example to the letter; it was just one counterexample to the "woe and ruin for 100 years" comment.

Fischgericht 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, but it is actually scientifically correct and proven on all sorts of layers. Biology, Maths, whatever. Not doomsdaying, just data analytics.

Societies are not operating like a sinus curve like say summer/winter cycles. They are upside-down "U"s. After the peak comes decline, but after the decline there is NOT recovery/growth again before you have a reset.

Germany was the huge winner of WW2 in the sense that after having had a high society they directly were allowed to get another such run. But as nobody wants to bomb us ) anymore, Germany is also in decline now waiting for a reset to come one day...

Sadly the USA will also need a reset before things can begin getting better again.

) I was born in Germany and lived there for 40 years.

scottyah 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Ok what about the Netherlands, Spain, Nordic countries?

Fischgericht 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Very different countries.

The Netherlands for example got their last reset by completely losing the Dutch empire.

Also, some societies have flatter curves than others. That really maps 1:1 to your style and culture of living and where the priorities are.

If your priorities are to be the best as fast as possible (Germany) you will have less time between resets. If your priorities are "let's chill and wait until the coconut falls from the tree into my hand", your society might be able to have a far longer time between resets.

But in the end: It's an iterative process. Which means: There must be iterations.

davidw 2 hours ago | parent [-]

This sounds about as scientific as phrenology.